#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-05-07

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[08:35:18] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
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[15:24:15] <tyzoid> hey deep42thought: You around to help me test something with the archlinux32 email?
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[15:37:08] <deep42thought> tyzoid: yeah, a little ;-)
[15:38:18] <tyzoid> Ok, so I figured out where my misconfiguration is, but I'm going to be sending some emails over to your arch32 address once I think it's resolved
[15:38:23] <tyzoid> right now, I just need to read the docs
[15:38:46] <deep42thought> ok, I'll need to go in ~ 20 minutes
[15:38:53] <deep42thought> but until then, I'm available :-)
[15:39:09] <tyzoid> Current issue is my mailserver thinks it's the archlinux32.org mail server (for outbound mail), so when I try to send mail from tyzoid@archlinux32.org to deep42thought@archlinux32.org, it fails, saying the user doesn't exist
[15:39:15] <tyzoid> which it doesn't on my server
[15:39:25] <tyzoid> but I need to get it to send through the main mx
[15:40:07] <deep42thought> https://stackoverflow.com
[15:40:07] <phrik> Title:Emails with same domain does not go out from postfix - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com)
[15:40:34] <tyzoid> Yeah, that's relay-only
[15:40:40] <tyzoid> they don't have inbound
[15:52:21] <deep42thought> sry, gotta go
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[18:09:08] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:09:28] <deep42thought> tyzoid: I'm back - in case you want to test anything
[18:10:33] <deep42thought> btw: I don't really see, why your mailserver needs to believe, he is responsible for archlinux32.org - mine doesn't believe he is responsible either (except for forwarding) and I can still receive my emails to my archlinux32.org address
[18:19:16] <tyzoid> deep42thought: That's what I'm trying to figure out
[18:19:36] <tyzoid> (btw, not really focusing on this atm, mostly just working on it while code compiles
[18:19:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: But do you have your arch32 mailbox on your backup mx?
[18:20:04] <tyzoid> or does it just forward?
[18:21:36] <deep42thought> polichronucci forwards the archlinux32 mails to our "personal" email addresses, e.g. an @eckner.net address in my case
[18:23:16] <tyzoid> Right. What I'm trying to do is set up an actual @archlinux32.org mailbox on my server for my email to go to
[18:23:50] <tyzoid> the only issue right now, is if I try to send mail out from my server, it tries to deliver locally, since it thinks it is the mail server for archlinux32.org
[18:24:50] <deep42thought> hmm
[18:25:02] <deep42thought> maybe you can define some kind of alias for a single address only?
[18:25:28] <tyzoid> You mean, on another domain?
[18:25:43] <tyzoid> That would work, but that's what I'm trying to avoid
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[19:05:47] <kadiro> Hello, I'm trying to follow the archlinux32 web site to make a transition from antergos to arch32, I'm stuck in this dependency: archlinux32-keyring and archlinux32-keyring-transition are in conflict. "archlinux32-keyring and archlinux32-keyring-transition are in conflict. Remove archlinux32-keyring-transition?"
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[19:07:07] <deep42thought> yep, that's right
[19:07:13] <deep42thought> remove archlinux32-keyring-transition
[19:07:22] <deep42thought> it's only to make the transition more smooth
[19:07:49] <kadiro> deep42thought, Thank you, I will try that
[19:10:59] <kadiro> It look like it is working, the transition
[19:11:04] <deep42thought> :-)
[19:11:59] <kadiro> deep42thought, Can I ask a question about this release?
[19:13:48] <kadiro> o.o
[19:14:22] <deep42thought> kadiro: sure
[19:14:56] <kadiro> deep42thought, Thank you, I want to ask about how long it will support 32bit
[19:15:27] <deep42thought> we try our best to make it "indefinitely" :-D
[19:15:46] <kadiro> lol ok that sound good
[19:15:54] <deep42thought> The next big issue I see, is the year 2038 problem ;-)
[19:16:18] <kadiro> haha that more than enough for me
[19:16:34] <deep42thought> but be aware, that some developers do not publish 32 bit sources anymore
[19:16:43] <kadiro> ah
[19:16:43] <deep42thought> and we're pretty much lost in that case
[19:16:56] <kadiro> you mean the kernel?
[19:17:02] <deep42thought> nah, the kernel is fine
[19:17:15] <deep42thought> but some semi-proprietary stuff is not available on i686
[19:17:23] <kadiro> oh
[19:17:32] <deep42thought> have a look at https://packages.archlinux32.org
[19:17:33] <phrik> Title:Blacklisted packages (at packages.archlinux32.org)
[19:17:56] <deep42thought> these packages and their dependencies are available on arch linux for x86_64 but not on i686
[19:18:07] <deep42thought> s/dependencies/dependent packages/
[19:20:13] <kadiro> I see, hopefully they don't add others to that list
[19:20:53] <deep42thought> well, if anything appears there, that you like to keep, we're always happy if you find a fix, that lets us compile it for i686 :-D
[19:21:36] <kadiro> cool, that give a hope ^_^
[19:25:42] <kadiro> deep42thought, Thanks again, It was a great talking, I have to go, have a good day
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[19:28:14] <bill-auger> are you uys having an issue with ;xkeyboard-config'
[19:28:49] <bill-auger> we have over 100 konw packages that can not upgrade due to that dependency
[19:28:59] <deep42thought> umm, lemme check
[19:29:48] <deep42thought> it's not on the build list
[19:30:03] <bill-auger> this list here #8 https://labs.parabola.nu
[19:30:05] <phrik> Title:Bug #1791: i686 missing packages - Packages - Parabola Issue Tracker (at labs.parabola.nu)
[19:30:44] <bill-auger> lukeshu says "because xkeyboard-config (gtk3->libxkbcommon->xkeyboard-config) is missing (because arch32 is still on xkeyboard-config-2.23.1-2.0, while ALARM and Arch have advanced to pkgrel=3). gtk3 "
[19:31:26] <deep42thought> we have 2.23.1-3.0 in testing
[19:39:25] <bill-auger> excellent ty
[19:42:38] <deep42thought> bill-auger: fyi, htere is now package interface similar to archlinux's one at package.archlinux32.org
[19:43:31] <bill-auger> brilliant yes i use those sites for parabola and arch dialy
[19:43:35] <bill-auger> The owner of package.archlinux32.org has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Iceweasel has not connected to this website.
[19:44:03] <deep42thought> packages.archlinux32.org
[19:44:07] <bill-auger> probably cause i have https-everywhere
[19:44:14] <deep42thought> no, I mistyped :-D
[19:44:39] <bill-auger> yes ok it is good
[19:54:05] <eschwartz> deep42thought: shouldn't it be configured to return "no such domain" then?
[19:55:39] <eschwartz> It's serving the main website with 200 OK
[19:57:54] <deep42thought> Polichronucci: can you configure archlinux32.org to only answer to archlinux32.org and archlinux32.oss?
[19:58:02] <deep42thought> and return an error otherwise?
[19:58:50] <eschwartz> Or, you could use a wildcard cert, then rewrite all invalid subdomains to the main page
[19:59:11] <eschwartz> But using an invalid cert to accidentally serve the main page seems hinky
[19:59:30] <deep42thought> yeah, it's an odd way to tell people they did something wrong :-D
[19:59:48] <eschwartz> depends if your browser is curl -k
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