#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-08-28

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[00:09:36] <minted> https://bpaste.net
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[07:03:51] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:04:09] <abaumann> split-package with differing sub_pkgrels on the build-list: llvm-ocaml, llvm-libs, llvm
[07:04:25] <abaumann> So, this is most likely due to removing llvm-ocaml temporarily
[07:04:42] <abaumann> I'll try to force sanity of the buildmaster (ignoring the error) and rebuilding of llvm
[07:18:41] <abaumann> how comes I comment out the split-package code in mysql-functions, run sanity-check and I still get the same errors?
[07:19:30] <elibrokeit> db-remove the old, maybe?
[07:20:48] <abaumann> will try.
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[07:38:43] <abaumann> mmh. After removing some files it worked.
[07:38:52] <abaumann> the sanity-check, I mean.
[07:39:00] <abaumann> I don't like to fiddle in the database directly :-)
[07:40:12] <abaumann> So, LLVM is no top in the priority list of packages to be built.
[07:45:41] <elibrokeit> abaumann: you're not fiddling
[07:46:01] <elibrokeit> you're removing packages which were temporarily dropped
[08:13:41] <buildmaster> archiso is broken (says nlopc43).
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[09:04:13] <abaumann> ah, you meant the script.. allright.
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[10:42:07] <buildmaster> transcode is broken (says nlopc43).
[11:01:11] <abaumann> imagemagick has been rebuild, but I seem unable to move it with db-update (I always get "Nothing to move here")?
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[11:49:40] <buildmaster> qcad is broken (says rechenknecht).
[11:52:25] * buildmaster failed to execute a mysql query - can you have a look at "tmp.mysql-functions.query.stdin.2018-08-28T11:52:23.CaUPvv"?.
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[13:45:05] * buildmaster goes insane.
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[13:46:42] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
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[13:47:04] <abaumann> buildmaster is out of space on /tmp, I cleaned and running sanity-check..
[14:10:25] <abaumann> mh. no every sanity checks runs out of diskspace on /tmp, even if I clean it before running the check, so, let's try to keep the size of /tmp for tmpfiles in the scripts (otherwise they hit I/O heavily!), but putting mysql tmpfiles to /var/tmp
[14:11:50] * buildmaster goes insane.
[14:32:37] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
[14:40:36] <abaumann> * abaumann resumes sanity too :-)
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[14:57:36] <buildmaster> cmake is broken (says eurobuild3).
[16:12:48] <buildmaster> avidemux is broken (says rechenknecht).
[16:15:03] <buildmaster> libopenshot is broken (says rechenknecht).
[16:28:14] <buildmaster> qca is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[17:48:19] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
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[17:57:59] <tyzoid> hey abaumann
[17:59:07] <abaumann> hi tyzoid
[17:59:19] <abaumann> mysqld on buildmaster runs better now.
[17:59:29] <abaumann> I tuned a little bit
[17:59:57] <abaumann> still. the backlog is huge currently. lots of work. :-)
[17:59:57] <tyzoid> nice
[18:00:35] <tyzoid> abaumann: Whatever happened that one guy on the forum who was interested in helping with packaging / stuff?
[18:01:08] <abaumann> who?
[18:03:27] <abaumann> I'm not against it, if that is the question. :-)
[18:04:35] <buildmaster> qcad is broken (says buildknecht).
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[18:10:16] <tyzoid> I just remember someone on the forum that was interested in helping
[18:10:20] <tyzoid> I can't remember exactly who
[18:10:37] <tyzoid> I was just wondering if anything has happened there.
[18:11:00] <abaumann> no. not really. I cannot even remember the name.
[18:13:28] <abaumann> well, levi is quite active, with a depchecker and answering questions, maybe him?
[18:13:41] <tyzoid> idk
[18:13:53] <abaumann> ok. we'll find out. :-)
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[20:13:08] <minted> https://git.archlinux32.org = 404 | anyone know what's up or where it has 'moved' to???
[20:14:00] <tyzoid> minted: it didn't. You've got a period at the end
[20:15:14] <buildmaster> graphite is broken (says nlopc43).
[20:16:58] <minted> tyzoid: well THAT is true and stupid of me i had pasted it from site but...even removing period kicks it back to site with initial link
[20:17:27] <tyzoid> You're still getting a 404?
[20:17:55] <tyzoid> Can you send a screenshot showing the issue?
[20:18:39] <minted> tyzoid: please excuse me appears it's an issue with isp on this end ty...
[20:18:48] <tyzoid> No worries.
[20:18:57] <tyzoid> You in the US?
[20:20:14] <minted> tyzoid: you know if any users around with a little patience for a non-veteran-'archer' just did fresh install having some 'issues'?
[20:20:35] <tyzoid> Possibly. I'm also here xD
[20:20:48] <tyzoid> What's the issue?
[20:20:51] <minted> tyzoid: niiice
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[20:25:46] <minted> tyzoid: well trying to cliff note it for ya i have install wth cli-root-sudo- etc. >>>gui is having problems e.g. pacman -S alsa-utils fails retrieving
[20:26:24] <tyzoid> what's in your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist?
[20:26:26] <minted> tyzoid: trying to start x get gui >>> i already dwnloaded some d.e.'s and wm's
[20:28:12] <minted> tyzoid: well wth i'm root and it just permission denied me!...THAT is not good
[20:29:43] <minted> tyzoid: [disclaimer] the archlinux32 is a separate box from one i'm talking to you on
[20:30:15] <tyzoid> So the system you're asking for help with isn't archlinux32?
[20:30:29] <minted> tyzoid: yes it is
[20:30:58] <tyzoid> Can you paste the output of `cat /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist`?
[20:30:59] <minted> tyzoid: just letting you know its another box
[20:31:05] <tyzoid> yeah, no problem
[20:31:09] <tyzoid> !ptpb
[20:31:10] <phrik> “<command> 2>&1 | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw” OR “curl -F c=@path/to/a/file https://ptpb.pw” OR install community/pbpst
[20:31:21] <tyzoid> ^ This is a cool command you can use to paste things from a box
[20:31:22] <minted> tyzoid: no
[20:31:24] <tyzoid> to a pastebin
[20:32:23] <minted> tyzoid: no gui yet >>> no text browser
[20:34:30] <minted> tyzoid: canada on top>belarus>france>germany> >>> united states on bottom (should be on top yes?)
[20:34:35] <buildmaster> ostree is broken (says nlopc43).
[20:35:10] <tyzoid> The selected one should be above the others (make sure there's no '#' in front of the `Server = ` line
[20:36:14] <minted> tyzoid: indeed...moment
[20:36:36] <tyzoid> 32.arlm.tyzoid.com is the server I run out of Atlanta
[20:36:45] <tyzoid> so it should be relatively close if you're in the US
[20:41:54] <minted> tyzoid: commented out ALL but U.S. >>> #pacman -Syyu and -Syu = error: failed retrieving
[20:42:08] <minted> tyzoid: i have your here
[20:42:12] <tyzoid> You need at least one uncommented.
[20:42:34] <tyzoid> Can you paste the /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist with the curl command above?
[20:42:36] <minted> tyzoid: lol yes U,S. both uncommented
[20:42:48] <tyzoid> also, the full output of the pacman command
[20:43:15] <minted> tyzoid: as i said i'm not here on that box
[20:47:08] <minted> tyzoid: hey i think it may have been a connection issue here i just re-logged in and am running #pacman -S yyu now
[20:47:21] <minted> tyzoid: typo -Syyu
[20:47:58] <tyzoid> minted: That's what the command is for. You pipe it to `curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw`, and it gives you the paste link
[20:47:59] <phrik> Title:pb (at ptpb.pw)
[20:48:05] <tyzoid> then you can type the paste link here
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[20:51:12] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[20:51:18] <tyzoid> wb
[20:51:43] <abaumann> hi :-)
[20:51:55] <abaumann> trying to solve some icu trouble..
[20:57:40] <minted> tyzoid: the 2nd> curl command ^^^ only prints the file path | i installed pbpst haven't used before please advise command ty...
[20:58:13] <minted> tyzoid: https://ptpb.pw
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[21:03:45] <abaumann> mmh. I seem to be out of luck moving a single package from testing to stable.
[21:05:43] <minted> tyzoid: well one issue [solved] from o.p. ^^^ it gave me alsa-utils and alsamixer
[21:06:04] <tyzoid> Nice.
[21:06:19] <tyzoid> So are you still getting an error?
[21:07:54] <abaumann> ok, let's try db-update without -f..
[21:08:07] <tyzoid> lol, that might be a good idea
[21:08:26] <abaumann> I'm a little bit fed up with the build system.. it reacts in really funny ways.
[21:08:38] <tyzoid> It is all just a series of bash scripts...
[21:08:50] <abaumann> that's one of it's problems IMHO :0>
[21:08:58] <abaumann> mysql is the other.
[21:09:03] <abaumann> I don't consider mysql a database.
[21:09:05] <tyzoid> HEY
[21:09:10] <abaumann> not a working one anyway.
[21:09:12] <tyzoid> DON'T YOU BE DISSING MYSQL
[21:09:24] <abaumann> me a long term Postgresql user.
[21:09:27] <abaumann> hah! LOL.
[21:09:34] <abaumann> I managed to start a flame war. :-)
[21:09:42] <tyzoid> Idk, I've had issues whenever I try to connect an application to postgres
[21:09:49] <tyzoid> since it doesn't do auth in a reasonable way
[21:09:53] <minted> tyzoid: squeal baby squeal
[21:09:57] <tyzoid> lol
[21:10:13] <abaumann> yeah. hb_pga.conf has it's quirks.
[21:10:29] <abaumann> they just act in very different ways.
[21:10:40] <abaumann> Mysql uses all memory it can use and it's hard to tame there.
[21:10:51] <abaumann> Postgresql you give 24 MB and it will stick to it.
[21:11:23] <abaumann> aha. the big qt5-declarative war is over, I thing.
[21:11:23] <minted> tyzoid: going to try and rev up some gui and x may i come back to you if i have "issues"?
[21:11:26] <abaumann> *think
[21:11:35] <tyzoid> minted: Ok, let me know what you run into
[21:12:45] <minted> tyzoid: ty for the patience and teaching(s) @phrik too forgive any dumbassness i will have to practice that kewl curl ^^^ pass it on...
[21:12:56] <tyzoid> phrik is our bot
[21:12:57] <phrik> Perhaps false...
[21:13:02] <tyzoid> LOL
[21:13:05] <tyzoid> abaumann: ^
[21:13:13] <abaumann> phrik really doesn't mind. :-)
[21:13:13] <phrik> abaumann: Is that a question?
[21:13:22] <tyzoid> yes
[21:13:24] <abaumann> whut?
[21:13:40] <minted> tyzoid: i always give love to the robots [i] ;))
[21:13:45] <tyzoid> !check if phrik is a bot
[21:13:46] <phrik> Testing if phrik is a bot: [5FAIL]
[21:13:51] <tyzoid> It's conclusive
[21:14:01] <abaumann> phrik: are you a good robot?
[21:14:01] <phrik> Thankfully true.
[21:14:10] <tyzoid> hmm
[21:14:32] <abaumann> ah. I'm quite happy with the performance now on the buildmaster..
[21:14:52] <abaumann> db-update is not running out of /tmp or doing anything strange..
[21:15:49] <tyzoid> abaumann: You know, if you do too good of a job administering the buildmaster, you might just inherit deep's old position.
[21:16:10] <abaumann> aeh.. ok, in this case I should try less hard to do a good job. ;-)
[21:16:24] <tyzoid> Quick get somethign swapping!
[21:16:27] <abaumann> I have to read a lot of code.
[21:16:34] <abaumann> lol
[21:16:48] <tyzoid> dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zero
[21:16:57] <abaumann> yaiks.
[21:17:37] <abaumann> pdflatex: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.75: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:17:44] <tyzoid> oof
[21:17:55] <abaumann> mmh. yeah. we have to work on the dependency detection..
[21:20:54] <abaumann> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize ffmpeg
[21:20:55] <buildmaster> abaumann: Cannot find "ffmpeg"
[21:21:05] <abaumann> buildmaster.. you must be kidding me.
[21:21:30] <abaumann> buildmaster: !wtf ffmpeg
[21:21:35] <buildmaster> abaumann: [extra] ffmpeg (1:4.0.2-2.1): /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[21:21:38] <abaumann> phrik: !wtf ffmpeg
[21:21:38] <phrik> abaumann: Is that a question?
[21:22:21] <abaumann> aha. not have been rebuild.. have you.. bad package.
[21:22:29] <minted> tyzoid: you prefer lxdm or light dm for this distro?
[21:22:58] <tyzoid> up to you. I've use lightdm on x86, so that's what I usually go with.
[21:23:13] <tyzoid> lightdm with lightdm-gtk-greeter is pretty lightweight
[21:23:55] <abaumann> I go with sddm/lxde or slim/notion, but libdm is fine too.
[21:24:15] <abaumann> deepin is currently broken
[21:24:27] <abaumann> plasma and gnome feel too heavy
[21:24:29] <abaumann> mate is ok
[21:24:42] <abaumann> personal experience on an eeepc.
[21:24:43] <abaumann> :-)
[21:24:45] <minted> abaumann: re:deepin been hearing bad mojo abut it
[21:25:56] <abaumann> well: it's stuck in a cycle between packages currently.. things depend in cyrcles on each other..
[21:26:06] <minted> abaumann: have you tried the 'extras' they've done for mate specific to the distro so its directly relational and integrates?
[21:26:22] <abaumann> nope.
[21:26:34] <abaumann> I'm personally a fan of openbox, ion3, notion, tiling window managers
[21:26:43] <minted> abaumann: unsure how many total so far but pretty kewl
[21:26:44] <tyzoid> I use xfce4
[21:26:56] <tyzoid> It's a stacking window manager
[21:27:01] <tyzoid> lxde is also pretty lightweight
[21:27:05] <abaumann> true.
[21:27:09] <tyzoid> but I test all the release isos with xfce4
[21:27:19] <tyzoid> so there's *some* assurance that it works to an extent
[21:27:26] <minted> abaumann: LOVE openbox miss crunchbang :((
[21:27:30] <abaumann> an my VMs I try to test all windows managers..
[21:27:37] <abaumann> .. but lately. *sigh*
[21:27:38] <tyzoid> nice
[21:28:04] <abaumann> just trying to log in, doing two clicks, opening a terminal and a browser, that's it.
[21:28:22] <minted> what happened to tmux just died in support???
[21:28:34] <abaumann> minimalistic quality assurance. :-)
[21:28:55] <abaumann> yeah? it did? well, there is screen.
[21:30:07] <minted> tyzoid: xfce just keeps goin like a beautiful diesel...put it on this one
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[21:33:30] <abaumann> ok. icu updates to 62 will break firefox. so far I was not able to recompile firefox for 32-bit, so let's see if at least firefox-bin is working..
[21:33:42] <tyzoid> Yeah, I'm almost sad to abandon it
[21:33:51] <tyzoid> But I can't stop thinking about kde
[21:34:22] <minted> kde too 'fluffy' for me.
[21:34:33] <abaumann> I used kde 10 years ago or so.
[21:34:37] <abaumann> or even longer ago.
[21:34:51] <abaumann> nowadays, a litte bit to windowsy for me. :-)
[21:35:03] <minted> didn't see in the documentation on the site does this [archlinux32] support yaourt?
[21:35:33] <abaumann> yeah. it works, if you compile package-query and yaourt directly from the AUR, changing arch in PKGBUILD to i686
[21:35:53] <minted> abaumann: ty
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[21:36:14] <abaumann> np
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[21:38:12] <minted> think i'll see how this software stays solid leave yaourt alone for now
[21:38:20] <abaumann> ..yep, rebuilt firefox-bin, works iwith icu 62.
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[21:46:40] <abaumann> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize imagemagick
[21:46:45] <abaumann> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize xmms2
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[21:47:44] <abaumann> now the buildmaster is sulking..
[21:47:48] <abaumann> ;-)
[21:48:49] <buildmaster> abaumann: I cannot decide whether imagemagick can be moved or not.
[21:48:50] <buildmaster> abaumann: "xmms2" is not tested.
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[21:50:30] <abaumann> ah. ffmpeg, prio 49. ok. :-)
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[21:52:18] <abaumann> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize xmms2
[21:52:19] <buildmaster> abaumann: "xmms2" is not tested.
[21:52:29] <abaumann> I just reported it. lol. :-)
[21:52:35] <minted> will there be an LTS kernel?
[21:52:45] <abaumann> there is a linux-lts package.
[21:53:04] <minted> gr8 ty again...
[21:53:23] <abaumann> linux, linux-lts, linux-zen and linux-pae
[21:53:33] <abaumann> no grsecurity as far as I recall.
[21:53:55] <abaumann> https://packages.archlinux32.org
[21:53:57] <phrik> Title:Arch Linux 32 - Package Search (at packages.archlinux32.org)
[21:53:58] <minted> any library issues?
[21:54:08] <abaumann> mmh. library issues?
[21:54:16] <abaumann> like?
[21:55:21] <abaumann> there is a blacklist here: https://git.archlinux32.org
[21:55:22] <phrik> Title:archlinux32/packages: Package customizations and pure-i686 packages - Archlinux32 Gitea (at git.archlinux32.org)
[21:55:36] <abaumann> those are packages known not to be supported (anymore) for 32-bit Intel
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[21:56:11] <minted> dunno had some installing this worked through it [disclaimer: i probably did cli commands in incorrect order...possibly]
[21:57:31] <abaumann> python-openstacksdk: mmh, might get onto the blacklist, just builds and checks in cyrcles, poor buildknecht2 :-)
[21:58:01] <abaumann> builds since 2 days.. ok.
[22:01:40] <minted> [snip fsf]Registration is now open for the Free Software Foundation's seminar on GPL Enforcement and Legal Ethics = lol >>> should be i...n...t...e...r...e...s...t...i...n...g
[22:02:36] <minted> caning self for multiline^^^
[22:03:49] <abaumann> so. late for me. bye.
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