#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-01-09

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[03:52:07] <buildmaster> i686/conky is broken (says rechenknecht).
[04:07:06] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-file-manager is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[08:40:06] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:40:06] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:40:06] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> doesn't one usually try to avoid rust on metals?
[08:40:15] <buildmaster> i686/kde-cli-tools are broken (says buildknecht2).
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[10:18:41] <buildmaster> i686/conky is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[12:34:21] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-daemon is broken (says rechenknecht).
[12:38:17] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-session-ui is broken (says rechenknecht).
[12:42:12] <buildmaster> i686/startdde is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[17:50:44] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[17:50:44] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[17:50:46] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> I forgot to copy over the login credentials
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[19:35:12] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[19:35:12] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[19:35:14] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> wasn't I saying something lately about setarch being broken? ;-)
[19:46:29] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[19:46:43] <deep42thought> is your / on your eeepc also only 4GB?
[19:46:59] <deep42thought> I'm currently struggling to update due to too few space :-(
[19:48:17] <deep42thought> oh, I spoke too soon - apparently removing glu and ca-certificates-cacert made enough room :-/
[20:00:04] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[20:00:24] <abaumann> mine is only 2GB, and that's an expansion from the original 512mb :-)
[20:00:28] <deep42thought> hi!
[20:00:34] <deep42thought> oh
[20:00:36] <abaumann> ah. disk space you mean.
[20:00:45] <abaumann> yeah. 4 GB
[20:00:56] <abaumann> I'm using a bunch of symlinks and an external SD card.
[20:01:22] <abaumann> I was under the impression that /lib/firmware contains mostly gibberish..
[20:01:34] <deep42thought> oh
[20:01:37] <deep42thought> indeed
[20:01:47] <abaumann> ..I never understood why so many binary blobs must be in one package, when actually just one chip or so is using a firmware.
[20:01:49] <deep42thought> 246M of gibberish
[20:01:54] <abaumann> :-)
[20:02:13] <deep42thought> btw: you read my messages about wks/wkd and fosdem?
[20:02:34] <abaumann> I would love to see a tool which tells me: "file xxx.bin' is a firmware file used by your hardware, do sort of a copy..
[20:02:54] <abaumann> fosdem, right. 2.2/3.2.
[20:03:00] <deep42thought> I don't understand what that tool should do
[20:03:19] <abaumann> tell me which files from the package are actually needed.
[20:03:31] <abaumann> the firmware-package
[20:04:10] <deep42thought> test by deletion
[20:06:28] <abaumann> mmh. Fr./Sa./Su. is not a big issue, the problem is the "being back at work on Monday". or I have to take that day off.
[20:06:29] <elibrokeit> abaumann: why would I want 400 different packages for hardware support, of which I must install 30 that I don't know?
[20:06:54] <abaumann> yeah, and I don't know what they should depend from.
[20:07:27] <abaumann> something like a mkinitcpio approach? instead of generating a ramdisk, just filling a file with 'required firmware?'
[20:10:17] <abaumann> mmh. dopsi did the torrent seeding and announce tracker?
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[20:14:33] <deep42thought> yes, dopsi did the torrent stuff
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[20:28:18] <deep42thought> if I see that correctly, fosdem ends on sunday around 6pm - this should be sufficient to get home in time
[20:36:36] <abaumann> yeah. either I have to change 10 times in the night, or the one almost direct train over Koeln is overbooked. Flixbus goes over Strasbourg and has 10-11 hours..
[20:36:48] <abaumann> ..that feels a little bit forced :-)
[20:36:54] <deep42thought> oh
[20:37:16] <abaumann> flighing I wanted to avoid somehow.
[20:37:31] <abaumann> also rigid train controls from Belgium to France or vice-versa. :->
[20:37:58] <deep42thought> oh, damn, it also looks like I will not arrive the same day :-(
[20:38:24] <deep42thought> yay, stay over night in Frankfurt \o/
[20:38:39] <abaumann> sounds like fun. :-)
[20:38:47] <deep42thought> I hear, they have good drugs
[20:39:13] <deep42thought> but I guess, that's rather bad than good for me ;-)
[20:41:30] <abaumann> yeah. I think, I have to ask for a day off. I don't like to squeeze it like that.
[20:43:00] <abaumann> wow. seeing up a torrent is astonishingly complicated..
[20:43:51] <abaumann> *setting
[20:44:26] <deep42thought> or seeding
[20:44:38] <abaumann> both :-)
[20:45:13] <abaumann> I'm testing on the buildmaster.. not the best place maybe..
[20:45:42] <abaumann> ..ah, archlinux and dopsi had their own tracker, tracker.archlinux.org seems to be opentracker
[20:46:07] <deep42thought> you want me to point some subdomain somewhere?
[20:46:27] <deep42thought> yeah, they use their own tracker of some kind
[20:46:38] <abaumann> when it works, yeah why not. We could have a tracker.archlinux32.org maybe.
[21:11:43] <abaumann> I really start to hate all this IVp4/IPV6 stuff..
[21:12:48] <abaumann> opentrack is running, transmission is running, the torrent file exists, the ISO too, the tracker has a URL, ctorrent clients connect, but do not download anything..
[21:13:11] <deep42thought> try aria2c
[21:13:21] <deep42thought> in my experience, that's much more robust
[21:13:30] <deep42thought> than rtorrent, though
[21:14:40] <abaumann> mmh. same effect. transmission is simply not seeding..
[21:15:06] <deep42thought> there is need for a seeder?
[21:15:19] <abaumann> I thought so.
[21:15:19] <deep42thought> I thought, the clients would pull from the http(s) mirrors, too
[21:15:40] <abaumann> there must be one in the net which knows all about the pieces, I thought.
[21:15:41] <deep42thought> do you have our mirrors in the magnet link?
[21:15:51] <deep42thought> hmm, might be
[21:15:57] <abaumann> I'm not on magnet yet. Just plain torrent.
[21:16:03] * deep42thought knows embarassing few about torrents
[21:16:06] <abaumann> *abaumann has to read more.
[21:16:10] <abaumann> :-)
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[21:27:21] <elibrokeit> torrents can have web seeds, but those do need to be explicitly included in the .torrent
[21:28:03] <bill-auger> you also ned to be sure you firewall is not blocking connections
[21:46:52] <abaumann> mmh. so ktorrent starts, ctorrent not. well. the usual trouble with BT clients I guess..
[21:47:20] <deep42thought> so you got it (somewhat) working?
[21:47:44] <abaumann> there is a torrent file in https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[21:47:45] <phrik> Title: Index of /downloads (at buildmaster.archlinux32.org)
[21:48:10] <deep42thought> you're seeding off the buildmaster?
[21:48:16] <abaumann> yep :-)
[21:48:31] <abaumann> that's my cloud test machine..
[21:48:55] <deep42thought> looks, like it works over here, too
[21:49:06] <abaumann> mmh. stopped at 23 mb, now it's seed to your client presumably. :-)
[21:49:29] <deep42thought> mine stopped at 23MB, too
[21:49:30] <deep42thought> :-/
[21:49:32] <abaumann> aha.
[21:50:31] <tyzoid> hi there
[21:50:38] <abaumann> hi tyzoid :-)
[21:50:39] <tyzoid> Apologies for my absence, deep42thought and abaumann. Just rolled off to a new position, so things are a lot less busy here.
[21:50:41] <deep42thought> Hi tyzoid
[21:50:47] <abaumann> np
[21:50:55] <deep42thought> :-)
[21:51:06] <tyzoid> So...
[21:51:09] <tyzoid> what have I missed?
[21:51:13] <tyzoid> I saw you made a january iso
[21:51:21] <tyzoid> and I am aware my mirror / archive is broken atm
[21:51:33] <deep42thought> not much besides that
[21:51:38] <abaumann> we had to move the buildmaster
[21:51:43] <tyzoid> Ah
[21:51:47] <deep42thought> ah, right
[21:51:51] <tyzoid> Hopefully somewhere with a faster disk?
[21:51:59] <abaumann> positive :-)
[21:52:05] <tyzoid> Nice.
[21:52:11] <deep42thought> abaumann now runs the buildmaster
[21:52:21] <tyzoid> Sweet
[21:52:28] <abaumann> I still hope, it's temporarily
[21:52:39] <deep42thought> oh, I missed that - you do?
[21:52:50] <abaumann> oeh.
[21:52:54] <abaumann> *abaumann scratches his head
[21:52:54] <deep42thought> :-/ sry
[21:53:07] <abaumann> *abaumann grins
[21:53:15] <tyzoid> I'd offer to run it over here, but (a) it's across a large pond, and (b) my system is starting to get sluggish as it is
[21:53:25] <deep42thought> you're afraid, you f*ck up the buildmaster when breaking your test machine?
[21:53:38] <deep42thought> abaumann: ^
[21:53:45] <abaumann> some bittorrent seeding going wrong.. yes. :->
[21:54:50] <deep42thought> well, then we probably take the offer from rewbycraft
[21:55:03] <deep42thought> *should take
[21:55:23] <abaumann> we should test for sure, if he has a newer faster machine.
[21:55:26] <tyzoid> rewby still around?
[21:56:01] <deep42thought> I was in contact with him via email around when we switched from his to abaumann's server
[21:56:11] <tyzoid> ah
[21:59:40] <deep42thought> abaumann: if I download your torrent with wget and then start the download with aria2c, it doesn't download anything
[22:00:03] <abaumann> yeah: I have exactly the same behaviour with ctorrent and aria2c.
[22:00:31] <abaumann> ktorrent additionally thinks that 23 MB of an empty 600 MB ISO file actually contains valid chunks and starts to offer them to the network..
[22:01:54] <tyzoid> :/
[22:01:57] <tyzoid> Very weird
[22:02:12] <abaumann> transmission is nice software.. I'm just not able to use it, it seems :-)
[22:02:21] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[22:02:24] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[22:02:26] <tyzoid> lol
[22:02:36] <tyzoid> I've used transmission for a while
[22:02:48] <tyzoid> Haven't used it recently though
[22:03:54] <deep42thought> ah, another thing, tyzoid: how are your plans regarding fosdem?
[22:04:10] <tyzoid> Corporate doesn't want to pay
[22:04:18] <tyzoid> Or, rather
[22:04:23] <tyzoid> they'll pay the $0 cost for the event
[22:04:27] <tyzoid> just won't pay my time or the flight
[22:04:48] <deep42thought> oh :-(
[22:05:25] <tyzoid> I can look at flights, but it'll likely be several thousand dollars for me to attend
[22:05:38] <deep42thought> that's much for 2 days ..
[22:05:39] <deep42thought> .
[22:05:51] <tyzoid> Well, I'd take probably a week / week and a half off
[22:05:58] <tyzoid> I've got an extra week of vacation this year
[22:06:29] <tyzoid> But still don't really want to pay a few thousand to come
[22:06:43] <deep42thought> yeah, that's understandable
[22:08:17] <tyzoid> Just looked up flights - cheapest is $530 USD via Delta / Air France / KLM, but that's *just* flights, not food / hotel
[22:08:36] <tyzoid> I've got no idea how much room / board would be in brussels
[22:09:13] <bill-auger> one word: couch-surfing
[22:09:14] <tyzoid> And I'd be flying out the day before the event, and returning the sunday after
[22:09:23] <tyzoid> lol
[22:09:27] <bill-auger> ok thats probably 2 words
[22:09:37] <abaumann> couch-surfing instead of Delta? ;-)
[22:09:49] <tyzoid> lol
[22:09:56] <tyzoid> Sounds like a dangerous trip over the atlantic
[22:09:57] <deep42thought> couch-surfing from the us to belgium will take more than two weeks
[22:10:02] <bill-auger> no, instead of getting busted in brussels for vagrancy
[22:10:10] * deep42thought knows
[22:10:35] <bill-auger> the transport would be more like barge-surfing
[22:11:07] <deep42thought> still, 500$ is much money ...
[22:11:20] <tyzoid> I could probably walk across the pacific, due to floating islands of Garbage
[22:11:25] <tyzoid> but that'd take several months longer
[22:11:56] <tyzoid> I could accept the $530 for the flight, but again, question is how much the room / board would be
[22:12:08] <bill-auger> stop in massachusettes, we can take my mom's paddle boat
[22:12:09] <tyzoid> I'm not sure I'm all that comfortable couch surfing if I don't know the person
[22:12:39] <bill-auger> ok next word: hostelle
[22:13:01] <deep42thought> unfortunately, my couch is too far from brussel to honestly offer it
[22:14:14] <tyzoid> After the event, it becomes easier to find places, since I don't need to stay in brussels
[22:15:38] <tyzoid> Additionally, the flight would get me into brussels at 9am CET
[22:15:46] <tyzoid> and the first keynotes start at 10am CET
[22:16:49] <tyzoid> Anyway, deep42thought: So the answer isn't "no", but it's far from a "yes" either.
[22:17:13] * deep42thought forgot his question
[22:17:26] <tyzoid> Whether I'm going to fosdem
[22:17:57] <deep42thought> ah, right
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[22:19:41] <tyzoid> Anyway, I'll be off for a few hours, heading out from work
[22:19:58] <tyzoid> If I don't catch you later, we'll catch up tomorrow
[22:20:06] <deep42thought> cu
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[22:35:52] <buildmaster> i686/alacritty is broken (says nlopc46).
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[23:45:02] <buildmaster> i686/sn0int is broken (says nlopc46).
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