#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-09-02

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[03:32:59] <buildmaster> pentium4/curaengine is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[03:33:45] <buildmaster> i486/curaengine is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[03:54:14] <buildmaster> i686/curaengine is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[04:21:03] <buildmaster> i486/python2-wxpython3 is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[04:32:11] <sidepocket> Heyo!
[04:32:28] <sidepocket> So, important question.
[04:33:03] <sidepocket> My room mate has an old ass touch screen kiosk from the late 90's. He would prefer to put Arch on it but only 32 bit software runs on the damn thing.
[04:33:17] <sidepocket> I found your guy's fork of it but the website has been down since last month.
[04:33:37] <sidepocket> Is this project still going? If so, I will use the wayback machine mirrors and try to torrent the ISO. Thanks!
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[06:59:59] <thePiGrepper> it is
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[07:41:21] <buildmaster> any/npm is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[07:45:06] <buildmaster> i486/intel-gmmlib is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[08:21:20] <yans> Hello!
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[08:58:07] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[08:58:07] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[08:58:08] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
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[09:00:50] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[09:00:50] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[09:00:51] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> because you're a pessimist with no hope - or you're a realist afraid of change ... pick your evil
[09:01:22] <deep42thought> I don't see any current or lasting past problems with the website ...
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[13:21:26] <buildmaster> i686/mayavi is broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
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[14:55:36] <buildmaster> i686/luasec is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[14:55:59] <buildmaster> pentium4/luasec is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[14:58:31] <buildmaster> i486/luasec is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[15:54:43] <deep42thought> we now have a simple key server, providing gpg keys under https://www.archlinux32.org ... updating the keys happens via devops/scrub-for-gpg-keys, which is to be run manually for now
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[16:11:00] <bill-auger> thats quite interesting - we have been havaing problems with the sks server for quite a while
[16:12:38] <bill-auger> if you could load the arch, arch32, archarm, and parabola keys onto it, maybe we could use it too
[16:52:38] <buildmaster> i486/0ad is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:53:49] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[16:53:49] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[16:53:50] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> wasn't I saying something lately about setarch being broken? ;-)
[16:54:16] <abaumann> eschwartz: not the whole spec, see https://src.fedoraproject.org
[16:54:18] <phrik> Title: Tree - rpms/rust - src.fedoraproject.org (at src.fedoraproject.org)
[17:02:42] <eschwartz> abaumann: these rpm developers are amazing, and not in a good way.
[17:07:47] <buildmaster> i486/abuse is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:14:36] <buildmaster> i486/aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:36:54] <City-busz> abaumann: currently epiphany, evince and evolution have broken linking in [extra]. [testing] versions work.
[17:37:13] <City-busz> on pentium4
[17:52:08] <abaumann> City-busz: so, should I do a bold move to stable? :-)
[17:53:05] <City-busz> Yes, I think. I didn't tested all GNOME applications, so more breakages are possible.
[17:53:54] <abaumann> Ok, I'm in the mood of breaking things. :-)
[17:55:15] <abaumann> the forum is working, so there is enough possibility to report bugs. ;-)
[18:01:04] <City-busz> abaumann: the clock applet on gnome-panel is broken, because it's still linked to libedataserver-1.2.so.23, but evolution-data-server provides libedataserver-1.2.so.24 now.
[18:01:40] <abaumann> yeah. the gnome-panel has bigger issues, it doesn't recompile because of broken APIs.
[18:02:08] <City-busz> gnome-panel-3.32.0 builds fine for me
[18:02:15] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[18:02:34] <abaumann> maybe it didn't build in the past.. let me reschedule it..
[18:02:55] <abaumann> there will be a flood of Haskell packages..
[18:03:21] <abaumann> mmh. there is a mutter problem..
[18:03:36] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux.org
[18:03:38] <phrik> Title: FS#63590 : [mutter] cherry-picked patch run away (at bugs.archlinux.org)
[18:05:32] <abaumann> ah. fixed. good. going to reschedule mutter too.
[18:06:24] <abaumann> deep42thought: very good thing, this key server, thanks :-)
[18:09:22] <abaumann> mmh. there is a runnaway borg on the buildmaster.. attack by a cubus?
[18:09:51] <abaumann> warning: cannot resolve "vim-runtime=8.1.1906-1.1", a dependency of "gvim"
[18:10:04] <abaumann> mmh. but that's on i686
[18:21:59] <abaumann> i486: warning: cannot resolve "device-mapper>=2.02.186", a dependency of "lvm2"
[18:22:02] <abaumann> this is not nice.
[18:23:45] * abaumann killed a borg on the builmaster
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[18:30:38] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:30:38] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[18:30:39] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> one day, some genius will prove, that all programming languages are isomorphic and there is actually only _one_ compiler
[18:30:43] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[18:30:43] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[18:30:46] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[18:30:51] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[18:31:05] <deep42thought> hopefully the keyserver withstands any high load
[18:31:22] <abaumann> mmh. it's running on a Raspberry Pi? ;-)
[18:31:25] <deep42thought> it's a 31-line php script in the end :-D
[18:31:57] <bill-auger> i dont get it - all it has is a link to "download it" that leads to a small encoded message
[18:32:12] <deep42thought> it's an example how to retrieve keys
[18:32:14] <bill-auger> and i dunno the decoding key mdr
[18:32:35] <deep42thought> you just do 'curl -S https://archlinux32.org | gpg --import'
[18:32:36] <bill-auger> oh i see i should pass the key-id in the URL
[18:32:39] <deep42thought> yes
[18:35:02] <bill-auger> so whos keys are the 2065 on it? - presumably mine isnt
[18:35:41] <bill-auger> thats surely far more than the number of arch devs and far less than the world total
[18:36:15] <deep42thought> it's all pgpvalidkeys in PKGBUILDs which my scrubber found
[18:36:28] <deep42thought> ah, I meant validpgpkeys
[18:36:30] <bill-auger> ok so many upstreams too
[18:36:37] <deep42thought> mainly those
[18:37:34] <deep42thought> though, I believe, each key is counted roughly twice - for the root key and each sub key
[18:37:59] <deep42thought> bill-auger: what's the easiest / cleanest way to retrieve all parabola keys?
[18:39:30] <buildmaster> i686/findutils are broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[18:40:03] <buildmaster> i686/mutter is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[18:40:17] <abaumann> findutils? seriously?
[18:40:45] <abaumann> ah. a reverse patch.. on it
[18:40:46] <buildmaster> i486/gnome-panel is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[18:40:46] <bill-auger> like this https://www.parabola.nu
[18:40:48] <phrik> Title: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre - parabola-keyring 20190809-1 (x86_64) (at www.parabola.nu)
[18:41:28] <bill-auger> i have a script that dumps the key data from the system installed keyring if that wuld be hgelpful
[18:41:30] <buildmaster> pentium4/findutils are broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[18:44:03] <buildmaster> i486/findutils are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[18:47:08] <abaumann> device-mapper/lvm2 problem fixed..
[18:58:29] <bill-auger> if its not obvious, what i am really considering is modifying pacman-key so that it always fetches keys from the arch32 server - im not yet sure how crazy that is
[19:00:38] <bill-auger> i dont know why but the public keyserver network is just not reliable - the ubuntu keyserver seems to be the only one that is reliable - if it comes down to relying on one songle server, it makes more sense to self-host - thats been my thinking recently
[19:02:53] <bill-auger> weve been considering putting all the parabola keys in a git repo, and loading the paraboa keyring directly from that - but we would need to do the same for arch, arch32 , and archarm too - not much different from what you guys have done
[19:02:53] <abaumann> public SKS servers seem to be under heavy attack lately.. :-(
[19:03:05] <bill-auger> yea i suspect it is that
[19:03:31] <abaumann> Sharing a "Archlinux and friends" key server is a good idea :-)
[19:04:05] <bill-auger> ill write to the parabola mailing list about it and see what folks think
[19:04:14] <abaumann> good idea.
[19:06:10] <bill-auger> i discussed the problems ive been having with the admin of the main sks server a few months ago - he did not indicate that there was any known problems
[19:07:18] <bill-auger> the MIT keyserver is pretty much a "500" server - you would think them smart folks there could get it together
[19:07:44] <abaumann> if they are under attack, they would communicate this publibly, I think
[19:07:54] <abaumann> *wouldn't
[19:08:00] <abaumann> *publicly
[19:08:03] <bill-auger> i send MIT admins email about a year ago and they never replied
[19:08:07] * abaumann things his keyboard gets mushy
[19:08:22] <abaumann> that's sad.
[19:09:04] <bill-auger> really, for a business that presents themselves as a world-class technology center
[19:09:37] <bill-auger> their PGP technology is the worst on the planet
[19:13:57] <abaumann> lightdm-gtk-greeter core dumps on i686, as usual.
[19:15:01] * abaumann considers using original xdm
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[19:25:02] <abaumann> mmh. how can lxde menus work in virtual machine and crash on a real machine?
[19:25:49] <abaumann> ouch, the buildmaster now went into a big boo-boo!
[19:26:37] <abaumann> most likely the same problem as after the last db-push -p?
[19:26:38] <abaumann> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[19:26:40] <phrik> Title: result of archlinux32 build master's sanity checksanity of the buildmaster's mysql database (at buildmaster.archlinux32.org)
[19:27:00] <abaumann> so half of the stuff still is on the master mirror and out of sync with the database..
[19:28:41] <abaumann> something tells me that using rust-bin with SSE2 crashes now librsvg on i686 as this st*id compiler always assumes it runs on the host.
[19:41:10] * abaumann really hopes he deletes the right files on the master mirror..
[19:44:20] <abaumann> so, now I have to push gvim out of the door (it creates an update issue)
[19:44:49] * abaumann wonders if gvim fits through the door, as it got fat lately. ;-)
[19:45:03] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
[19:45:07] <abaumann> hurre!
[19:54:55] <buildmaster> pentium4/mutter is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[20:03:24] <buildmaster> pentium4/gnome-panel is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[20:08:55] <buildmaster> i686/gnome-panel is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[20:16:35] <abaumann> yeah. Gnome is fixed and build..
[20:16:42] <abaumann> I wonder..
[20:18:44] <abaumann> gnome-panel runs now into the gettext 1.19/1.20 issue
[20:18:57] <abaumann> *0.19/0.20
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[20:25:16] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
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