#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-11-22

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[08:29:33] deep42thought changed topic of #archlinux32 to: Preserving i686 at https://archlinux32.org | Channel logs: https://mirror.archlinux32.org
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[09:43:26] <abaumann> deep42thought: there is a do-not-run-build-master since 06:08. Did you stop the buildmaster on purpose?
[09:43:53] <deep42thought> oh, I forgot to remove that
[09:43:58] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[09:44:00] <deep42thought> yes, I rebooted the master mirror
[09:44:02] <abaumann> hi, btw :-)
[09:44:04] <deep42thought> Hi!
[09:44:11] <deep42thought> How's the snow?
[09:44:18] <abaumann> Plenty :-)
[09:44:51] <abaumann> Out compost has been destroyed by deer..
[09:44:55] <abaumann> ..quite a mess.
[09:45:01] <deep42thought> :-/
[09:45:17] <abaumann> so, showeling compost instead of showeling snow or sh*t
[09:45:24] <deep42thought> lol
[09:45:38] <deep42thought> get a pig and make it eat the compost ;-)
[09:48:49] <abaumann> The deer takes care of that. :-)
[09:49:57] <abaumann> We have a law, which forbids feeding wild animals..
[09:50:11] <deep42thought> did the animals know that?
[09:50:12] <abaumann> ..nobody told us what happens if the wildlife starts to feed itself :-)
[09:50:30] <abaumann> the law has not been translated to "deerish", I supporse. ;-)
[09:53:56] <abaumann> find_repository_with_commit: Cannot find repository with commit ""
[09:53:56] <abaumann> I aborted your build-assignment (cmake).
[09:54:05] <abaumann> flock: 9: Bad file descriptor
[09:54:09] <abaumann> this doesn't sound good.
[09:54:27] <deep42thought> this sounds like I mistyped something ... let me check
[09:54:54] <abaumann> I restarted the slave on eurobuild1, then it disappeared.
[09:55:05] <deep42thought> it builds cmake?
[09:55:06] <abaumann> so it might be in some code handling strange situations..
[09:55:11] <deep42thought> or does it build something else, now?
[09:55:35] <abaumann> now, yes.
[09:55:41] <abaumann> works normally again after a restart
[10:00:45] <deep42thought> when was that? I cannot see anything related in the logs
[10:03:07] <abaumann> I think, the slaves were all terminated with that messgae
[10:03:26] <deep42thought> ah, during the downtime this morning?
[10:03:35] <abaumann> yes.
[10:03:50] <abaumann> so, I think it tried to contact the buildmaster and finally failed, or so.
[10:04:53] <deep42thought> ah, I know
[10:05:58] <deep42thought> this is the bad guy: https://git.archlinux32.org
[10:05:59] <phrik> Title: builder - Archlinux32 build system (at git.archlinux32.org)
[10:06:21] <deep42thought> the second bullet point is not fulfilled by the code :-D
[10:06:49] <abaumann> ah :-)
[10:08:39] <deep42thought> so: I think restarting the slaves was not necessary, removing the do-not-run-buildmaster file was sufficient
[10:08:45] <abaumann> urraka: we'll need rust for something important like firefox soon enough. :-)
[10:09:12] <abaumann> most of my slaves terminated, only one was still running with that error message
[10:09:22] <abaumann> the others had the error message and were terminated
[10:09:44] <abaumann> it was still running on the slowest build slave eurobuld1, so that seems explanaible. :-)
[10:09:47] <deep42thought> that's how you started build-packages
[10:10:10] <deep42thought> I use a systemd service and Restart=always (or how was it named?)
[10:10:12] <abaumann> yeah, usually in a for i 1 to 1000 loop, do build-packages; done
[10:10:25] <abaumann> Good point, I should also do that
[10:10:33] <deep42thought> well, it's fast to get 1000 errors like the one we had
[10:10:50] <abaumann> We had a tutorial in the forum from tyzoid about how to install a systemd service for build slaves
[10:11:26] <abaumann> I like output in screen and prefer it any time to journalctl mess from 6 build slaves :-)
[10:11:46] <deep42thought> while true; do build-packages; done
[10:11:56] <deep42thought> note, there is also `build-packages -n 0`
[10:12:03] <deep42thought> which should build infinitely
[10:12:09] <abaumann> the 1000 reminds me to do some slave updates from timme to time
[10:12:10] <deep42thought> but might abort on unusual errors, though
[10:12:24] <abaumann> yeah, that's why you see my slaves sometimes die..
[10:12:41] <deep42thought> just do regular git pulls
[10:12:51] <abaumann> also in the systemd service.
[10:12:57] <abaumann> yeah, will do that and document in the forum
[10:13:01] <deep42thought> the script will not build another package when it detects, that it's running not the version on disk
[10:18:10] <abaumann> mmh. I should really also do some monitoring of the slaves..
[10:18:43] <deep42thought> could be done by nit-picker or the buildmaster
[10:47:25] <deep42thought> what exactly do you want to monitor?
[10:47:53] <abaumann> Wether a slave runs and if it is constantly restarting.
[10:48:00] <abaumann> But I have a hunch, this is easier done in nagios
[10:48:12] <abaumann> besides. build slaves don't _have_ to run all the time
[10:48:37] <deep42thought> yeah
[10:49:04] <deep42thought> we could implement some front-desk, to which you say "hello" and "good bye"
[10:49:12] <deep42thought> this way, unintended shutdown would be noticed
[10:49:20] <abaumann> that's an idea.
[10:50:14] <deep42thought> otoh, I'm not sure, what issues that would really catch
[10:50:21] <abaumann> no worries.
[10:50:38] <abaumann> at the moment I will montitor just for myself in my local nagios
[10:50:45] <deep42thought> ok
[10:50:51] <abaumann> just, whether the systemd service is running or not
[10:50:58] <abaumann> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[10:50:58] <phrik> Title: How to create a build slave? / Building / Archlinux32 Forum (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[10:51:06] <abaumann> I'm trying to recover the documentation
[10:51:22] <deep42thought> devtools32 is already packaged
[10:51:26] <abaumann> ah. true.
[10:51:30] <abaumann> in which repo?
[10:51:44] <deep42thought> http://mirror.archlinux32.org
[10:51:44] <phrik> Title: Index of /x86_64/releng/ (at mirror.archlinux32.org)
[10:51:46] <deep42thought> [releng]
[10:51:53] <abaumann> ah ok.
[10:52:07] <abaumann> I have sometimes weird constellations like bulding i486 on i486
[10:52:29] <abaumann> installing the devtools32 package should be the default case
[10:53:22] <deep42thought> btw: I think, devtools32 on x86_64 can build i486, too
[10:53:35] <abaumann> ah right.
[10:53:39] <abaumann> should be all shell-ish
[10:53:44] <deep42thought> and it's not (much) worse than building inside a archlinux32-i486 vm which runs on x86_64
[10:54:02] <abaumann> same applies to mirrorlist32
[10:54:16] <deep42thought> I meant something differen
[10:54:16] <deep42thought> t
[10:54:33] <deep42thought> actually using an x86_64 host to build i486 packages should work
[10:54:43] <abaumann> Ah, true
[10:54:51] <deep42thought> so there should be no need for an intermediate 32-bit vm
[10:55:09] <abaumann> no, that's historic back from bootstrapping i486 times..
[10:55:15] <deep42thought> because badly probing software will "punch through" the vm anyways and detect x86_64 features
[10:55:57] <abaumann> I think that was the reason, yes, with limited uname support for detecting i486.
[10:56:33] <abaumann> brb. must do some pizza dough now :-
[10:56:34] <abaumann> )
[11:08:15] <deep42thought> umm, we need a project description for spi-inc
[11:34:50] <T`aZ> do you guys know at least 1 user for the i486 arch ? :D or is it just for fun ?
[11:36:48] <deep42thought> I know 2
[11:36:51] <deep42thought> abaumann and me
[11:37:50] <T`aZ> :D
[11:37:54] <deep42thought> and I think, someone inquired to get archlinux running on some OLPC - which does not support i686
[11:38:07] <T`aZ> ho, nice
[11:38:07] <deep42thought> "some" = "he has multiple of them"
[11:38:24] <deep42thought> the main problem is rust (as I understand)
[11:38:30] <deep42thought> which blocks librsvg
[11:38:36] <deep42thought> which blocks almost all x
[11:38:50] <deep42thought> which is not an issue for me (because the i486 is my router)
[11:42:44] <T`aZ> nice nice
[11:43:11] <T`aZ> i retired my pentium200mhz router ~6-7y ago
[11:43:50] <deep42thought> https://old.archlinux32.org
[11:43:50] <phrik> Title: i486 motivation thread / Artwork, Screenshots & Setups / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at old.archlinux32.org)
[11:43:53] <deep42thought> https://old.archlinux32.org(Page%202)%20_%20Artwork,%20Screenshots%20&%20Setups%20_%20Arch%20Linux%2032%20Forums.html
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[12:01:21] <cookie4700> guys, I want to thank you all for this project! i'm able to use an old asus eee pc (1101ha) as radio station in my kitchen / living room because of this project.
[12:08:29] <T`aZ> yes this is indeed awesome
[12:41:00] <deep42thought> cookie4700: you're welcome
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[12:41:49] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[14:49:51] <buildmaster> i486/qcad is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:25:02] <buildmaster> i686/firefox is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:37:42] <buildmaster> i686/shellcheck is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[16:39:38] <buildmaster> pentium4/shellcheck is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[17:39:11] <buildmaster> pentium4/hedgewars are broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[17:45:54] <buildmaster> i486/nodejs are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[18:00:24] <buildmaster> i686/qcad is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[18:03:06] <buildmaster> pentium4/qcad is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[18:07:59] <buildmaster> pentium4/gvfs are broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:08:58] <buildmaster> i486/openssh-askpass are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:14:47] <buildmaster> i486/z3 is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:30:44] <buildmaster> pentium4/firefox is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:34:52] <buildmaster> pentium4/croc is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[19:08:12] <buildmaster> i686/z3 is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[19:09:26] <buildmaster> pentium4/z3 is broken (says eurobuild6-1): https://archlinux32.org
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[20:53:57] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[20:53:58] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[20:53:59] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> ahm, what is actually in the package "vulkan-headers" on i486? I thought, we disabled all vulcans?
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[23:37:40] <buildmaster> i686/grafana is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[23:45:51] <buildmaster> pentium4/grafana is broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
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