#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-11-25

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[01:20:52] <lvgx> I have an issue with python : python itself is 3.7.4 but all modules are for 3.8
[01:21:06] <lvgx> nothing in python works
[01:21:13] <lvgx> from the repos
[01:25:21] <lvgx> are python modules auto-imported from mainline?
[01:32:26] <{levi}> Yes, parts of python 3.8 were mistakenly copied to stable
[01:33:08] <{levi}> I don't know about all modules; all that's been reported so far as pyparsing mind you
[01:34:30] <{levi}> Could you list your /usr/lib/python3.8 folder to see everything that's there?
[02:14:46] <lvgx> pacman -Qo /usr/lib/python3.8/ → 'python-pyparsing' 'xcb-proto'
[02:15:21] <lvgx> I don't see anything else actually
[02:17:08] <lvgx> so its not all modules, sorry
[02:17:14] <lvgx> my bad
[02:18:36] <{levi}> No problem, I didn't think it was but needed to just check
[02:21:34] <{levi}> Okay, if you can roll back both that and python-pyparsing then you should be good to go for the time being.
[02:22:10] <{levi}> I've commented on the bug report now: https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[02:22:13] <phrik> Title: FS#93 : pyparsing error is preventing applications from starting (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
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[02:31:34] <lvgx> downgrade worked, thanks
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[03:28:12] <buildmaster> i686/gitea is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[03:32:57] <buildmaster> pentium4/gitea is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
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[04:13:25] <buildmaster> i486/aws-c-common is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[04:19:17] <buildmaster> i486/primus_vk is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[04:59:45] <buildmaster> pentium4/virtualbox-modules-arch is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[05:02:58] <buildmaster> i686/virtualbox-modules-arch is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[06:14:14] <abaumann> moring deep42thought
[06:14:19] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[06:14:20] <abaumann> *morning
[06:14:24] <deep42thought> kernel-update-reboot in progress
[06:14:28] <abaumann> saw the buildmaster stopping :-)
[06:14:30] <abaumann> yes.
[06:14:36] <abaumann> I thought so :-)
[06:15:43] <deep42thought> what's the deal about those munin messages?
[06:15:49] <deep42thought> I do not really understand them
[06:15:52] <abaumann> mmh. no clue.
[06:16:03] <abaumann> some croaking about disk space
[06:16:13] <abaumann> the problem is: the plugin monitors _every_ mount point
[06:16:18] <deep42thought> but the numbers look alright to me
[06:16:24] <abaumann> to me too
[06:16:46] <deep42thought> is it really a good idea to monitor with nagios *and* munin?
[06:16:58] <abaumann> yes, because they do not monitor the same thing
[06:16:59] <deep42thought> I mean: munin is nice for graphs on the webfrontend
[06:17:04] <deep42thought> hmm, ok
[06:17:13] <abaumann> I can always disable notifications in munin
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[06:18:48] <abaumann> buildmaster?
[06:18:58] <deep42thought> ah, right
[06:19:01] <abaumann> coupled to nagios
[06:19:07] <deep42thought> the buildmaster has *two* irc bots :-D
[06:23:09] <abaumann> there is always a possibility to add another irc bot ;-)
[06:23:33] <deep42thought> we could add a bot-adding bot
[06:24:24] <deep42thought> what do we do about python-pyparsing?
[06:24:32] <abaumann> unpublish? ;-)
[06:24:33] <deep42thought> do we try to move all of python to stable?
[06:24:48] <abaumann> I was hoping for all other python stuff to hit stable soon.
[06:24:58] <abaumann> it's an idea. and sort out the rest
[06:25:10] <abaumann> do you see another option?
[06:25:20] <deep42thought> manually unpublishing it
[06:25:27] <deep42thought> (but I don't like *that*)
[06:25:36] <deep42thought> or we could just wait
[06:25:41] <abaumann> yeah, it might trigger new corner cases
[06:25:43] <deep42thought> but I don't really like that either
[06:26:02] <abaumann> how does the python 3.8 rebuild look like?
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[06:27:17] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[06:27:18] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[06:27:21] <abaumann> it's quite hard to see without installing what modules are 3.8 and which ones are 3.7
[06:27:39] <abaumann> ui. pkgconf had some quite wrong stuff in it: https://git.archlinux.org
[06:27:41] <phrik> Title: i686-pc-linux-gnu.personality\trunk - svntogit/packages.git - Git clone of the 'packages' repository (at git.archlinux.org)
[06:27:47] <abaumann> I patched it for 32-bit now..
[06:27:48] <deep42thought> there are quite some python packages on the buildlist, still ...
[06:28:03] <abaumann> mmh
[06:28:12] <deep42thought> I'll wait for now
[06:28:16] <abaumann> my last forced move of llvm 9 I still regret. :-)
[06:28:31] <abaumann> now I have to go through a bad rust bootstrap session..
[06:28:55] <abaumann> the workaround is using an old pyparsing
[06:29:01] <abaumann> so, not that dramatic.
[06:29:15] <abaumann> the question is, should we add some of our known problems into the announcments?
[06:30:12] <deep42thought> hmm, I like the one of spi being at top ;-)
[06:30:30] <abaumann> true :-)
[06:30:46] <abaumann> naeh. there are forum entries around pyparsing and there is a bugreport
[06:31:30] <deep42thought> we could add a red, dynamic "we fucked something up" banner on the front page
[06:31:54] <abaumann> wouldn't the banner soon cover the whole page? ;-)
[06:32:03] <deep42thought> lol, yeah, probably
[06:32:22] <deep42thought> btw: I'm wondering, why this problem did not hit us much earlier: db-update did not check any versions of dependencies ...
[06:33:00] <abaumann> mmh. maybe the build order was mainly preserved when seeding from upstream?
[06:33:09] <deep42thought> yeah, possible
[06:33:42] <abaumann> and, things got blocked and deblocked also mainly preserving the order.
[06:33:52] <abaumann> or luck :-)
[06:34:02] <deep42thought> or ignorance ;-)
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[06:51:11] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[06:51:11] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[06:51:13] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> another day.. another shim (package)
[06:53:09] <buildmaster> i686/emacs are broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[06:55:48] <deep42thought> emacs is a compiler now, too: It has the same dependency loop issues :-D
[06:56:47] <abaumann> yeah. but to be fair, it generates a proto emacs and builds something with that one
[06:56:51] <abaumann> the problem is icu64
[06:57:06] <deep42thought> yes, I'm fixing that now
[06:57:06] <abaumann> I'm currently building shim packages for icu64, llvm8
[06:57:10] <abaumann> ah.
[06:57:11] <abaumann> :-)
[06:57:25] <deep42thought> libotf is also quite far up in the chain blocking stuff
[06:57:37] <deep42thought> checking for freetype-config... no
[06:57:37] <deep42thought> Freetype library wan't found in your system!
[06:57:49] <abaumann> could be a pkgconf issue
[06:57:52] <deep42thought> dunno
[06:57:57] <deep42thought> I have to go now ...
[06:57:58] <deep42thought> cu
[06:58:01] <abaumann> ok,
[06:58:02] <abaumann> cu
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[07:00:17] <abaumann> ==> ERROR: Failure while downloading http://download.savannah.gnu.org
[07:00:20] <abaumann> aha
[07:00:27] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux.org
[07:00:29] <phrik> Title: FS#60427 : [libotf] build fails in configure - freetype not found (at bugs.archlinux.org)
[07:00:46] <buildmaster> pentium4/emacs are broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[08:09:17] <andrimne> https://centos.org
[08:09:19] <phrik> Title: cannot login any more?!? - CentOS (at centos.org)
[08:09:44] <andrimne> https://www.centos.org
[08:09:46] <phrik> Title: Unable to ssh: /bin/bash: Permission denied - CentOS (at www.centos.org)
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[08:41:27] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:41:27] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:41:28] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> everyone needs to crap once in a while
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[09:08:29] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[09:08:29] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[09:08:30] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
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[09:15:19] <deep42thought> Hey buildmaster, what's up?
[09:15:20] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[09:15:20] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[09:15:20] <buildmaster> up? I'm up for 3 hours, 57 minutes, load average: 4.84, 2.74, 2.34
[09:15:22] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> I forgot to copy over the login credentials
[09:44:10] <andrimne> I found it. In some way the permissions on /usr/bin have been changed. Bug 1208836 - /bin/bash permission denied
[09:44:25] <deep42thought> oh, that's strange
[09:45:02] <andrimne> Some program does this. I didn't.
[09:45:23] <deep42thought> otherwise you would have noticed sooner ;-)
[09:45:31] <andrimne> yes
[09:45:35] <deep42thought> but: which program should change permissions of /usr/bin ?
[09:47:00] <andrimne> Good question, but some program does. Maybe a deliberately planted bug.
[09:49:27] <andrimne> How it was: dr--r--r--.   2 root root 45056 Nov 24 23:50 bin
[09:53:53] <andrimne> sorry. forget. Wrong room.
[09:54:24] * deep42thought forgets everything
[10:21:57] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-transition-20191103-1-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -11 < 100 days).
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[11:37:58] <buildmaster> pentium4/librsvg is broken (says rechenknecht) - already flagged out-of day upstream on 2019-11-25: https://archlinux32.org
[12:39:19] <buildmaster> i486/libsecret is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[12:59:12] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -11 < 100 days).
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[17:25:17] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[17:25:18] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[17:25:19] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> still.. I'm close to declare pacman-static the official pacman :->
[17:26:01] <abaumann> levi: bringing back the content to the forum is nice, just make sure you script everything. Also, we should be careful to take backups before. :-)
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[17:27:49] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[17:27:50] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[17:27:51] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> nah, I never ran emacs - it's a nice os, but I couldn't find a suitable editor for it
[17:28:15] <deep42thought> speaking of backups: I just (hopefully just) temporarily broke my backup server
[17:28:26] <abaumann> urgh.
[17:28:32] <deep42thought> afk, dinner
[17:28:35] <abaumann> cu
[17:28:36] <abaumann> :-)
[17:44:29] <buildmaster> i486/python-pychm is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[17:53:39] <buildmaster> any/buildbot is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[18:01:18] <buildmaster> any/buildbot-www is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[18:12:29] <deep42thought> !bug 64626
[18:12:30] <phrik> https://bugs.archlinux.org
[18:13:25] <buildmaster> i686/krita is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[18:14:50] <buildmaster> pentium4/krita is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[18:31:53] <buildmaster> i686/grafana is broken (says nlopc46) - already flagged out-of day upstream on 2019-11-25: https://archlinux32.org
[18:43:37] <buildmaster> pentium4/grafana is broken (says rechenknecht) - already flagged out-of day upstream on 2019-11-25: https://archlinux32.org
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[19:15:31] <buildmaster> i686/gettext is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[19:30:38] <buildmaster> i686/mariadb is broken (says buildknecht2): https://archlinux32.org
[19:31:09] <buildmaster> pentium4/gettext is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[19:31:12] <buildmaster> pentium4/mariadb is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[19:36:53] <deep42thought> the linking problem is not within emacs, but within m17n-lib
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[20:13:54] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[20:13:54] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[20:13:56] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> I'm all for an docdepends upstreams and a doc hook, in order to reduce all those silly dependencies just to get documentation nobody reads afterwards, because they don't know about the 'man' command.. (rant of the day)
[20:14:16] <abaumann> deep42thought: m17n-lib, yeah, I should use ldd before scheduling something.. *grmpf*
[20:14:23] <deep42thought> me, too
[20:14:30] <deep42thought> I rescheduled emacs ... again :-D
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[21:12:04] <rgh> mmm youtube-dl has a python error thingy ?
[21:12:19] * rgh is very good in describing bugs :-)
[21:12:47] <abaumann> yes.
[21:13:05] <abaumann> it's not youtube-dl, it's pyton-pyparse you have do downgrade, most likely.
[21:13:24] <abaumann> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[21:13:25] <rgh> I'll patiently await for things to be pushed to stable
[21:13:25] <phrik> Title: [solved] youtube-dl - youtube-dl 2019.10.29-1.0 - python-pyparsing Bug / Pacman / Pacman Upgrades / Archlinux32 Forum (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[21:13:46] <abaumann> well, this is the problem. we can only push all of python or nothing
[21:13:56] <rgh> yeah ..
[21:13:58] <abaumann> or at least. most python packages.
[21:14:34] <abaumann> you can check the irc logs, we discussed that this morning. the conclusion if to wait (patentienly) a little bit longer. :-)
[21:15:13] <buildmaster> i486/m17n-lib is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[21:16:40] <rgh> Well, arch32 runs on my kinda rescued laptop. My dad gave it too me. "it's rather slow"
[21:16:50] <rgh> Single core Celeron
[21:16:55] <abaumann> cool. :-)
[21:17:03] <rgh> Less than 1gb ram
[21:17:21] <rgh> Lxqt runs just fine.
[21:17:34] <rgh> Falkon browser, I'm all good to go.
[21:17:43] <abaumann> Usually you get into trouble with firefox, chromium and friends.
[21:17:51] <rgh> Wifi, audio everything works. It's a bloody miracle.
[21:18:24] <rgh> I tried compton, but that made it very laggy. Looked gorgeous tho.
[21:18:58] <rgh> Look
[21:19:09] * rgh uploaded an image: VectorImage_2019-11-25_091903.jpg (73KB) < https://matrix.org >
[21:19:29] <rgh> It even has a windows XP badge!
[21:19:40] <abaumann> deep42thought: JFYI, emacs depends on m17-lib, which depends on libotf, which depends on a not-found freetype (FS#60427)
[21:19:44] <abaumann> ah.
[21:19:52] <abaumann> I see you there in the bug, so.. :-)
[21:20:31] <rgh> If someone can push the sonic visualiser update that'd be nice btw
[21:20:49] <abaumann> My last donated machine is a IBM Thinkpad 240X (not a X240), it had Windows 2000.. :-)
[21:21:45] <abaumann> a libotf fails for i486 only, that's ok.
[21:21:55] <deep42thought> abaumann: I don't understand the answers in that bug report
[21:21:57] <deep42thought> tbh
[21:23:26] <abaumann> well, libotf is a dependency of m17n-lib, so it cannot be rebuilt, I thought, but seeing now the pentium4 m17n-lib just building fine, I'm puzzled too..
[21:24:02] <abaumann> it's related only in the sense that m17n-lib needs libotf to build?
[21:26:26] <rgh> I have a netbook, Compaq mini 10. Think I'll put arch32 on that too.
[21:28:20] <abaumann> neat thing :-)
[21:29:17] * abaumann must sleep (in his timezone).. bye
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