#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-11-29

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[08:30:25] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:30:25] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:30:26] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> "hmm, that git is still running - maybe I should start another, identical one"
[08:31:45] <deep42thought> Fcnjd: sure, there is archiso32 and archiso-dual in [releng]. However, note, that it is supposed to run on x86_64 (but might still run on i686/pentium4, too)
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[08:57:51] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:57:51] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:57:52] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> nobody wrote an operating system in python yet?
[08:57:55] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[08:58:05] <abaumann> morning deep42thought
[09:00:48] <deep42thought> did you have a look at fs32#98?
[09:01:09] <abaumann> no
[09:01:14] <deep42thought> ok
[09:02:04] <abaumann> it looks like it tries to read from /dev/urandom, fails and then tries a password on the keyboard
[09:02:13] <deep42thought> yeah
[09:02:20] <deep42thought> but /dev/urandom is definitely readable
[09:02:25] * deep42thought checks again
[09:02:32] <abaumann> also during boot?
[09:02:46] <deep42thought> this is *not* during boot
[09:02:50] <abaumann> aha.
[09:03:01] <deep42thought> this is in a root shell
[09:03:20] <deep42thought> you should be able to reproduce the issue with the 3 commands given in the first comment
[09:03:31] * abaumann starts a i486 test machine.
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[09:11:48] <abaumann> first I should create a LUKS partition for swap
[09:11:59] <deep42thought> not really
[09:12:07] <abaumann> Failed to load LUKS superblock on device /dev/disk/by-uuid/80b3209e-329c-421b-a159-d038cb31bdf8: Invalid argument
[09:12:08] <deep42thought> you can do it in a loop device for testing
[09:16:28] <abaumann> "Not compatible PBKDF options.
[09:16:38] <abaumann> This stuff is not really good documentent.. very secure.. :-)
[09:16:50] <deep42thought> even the documentation is encrypted?
[09:17:51] <deep42thought> I also find the error messages somewhat confusing
[09:22:41] <deep42thought> short demonstration:
[09:22:43] <abaumann> trying to mount it tells be there is no LUKS signature, trying to create one with cryptsetup tells me "Not compatible PBKDF options".
[09:22:44] <deep42thought> buildmaster: bug 98
[09:22:44] <buildmaster> deep42thought: https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[09:22:46] <phrik> Title: FS#98 : swap encryption fails (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[09:22:46] <abaumann> I'm lost.
[09:23:14] <deep42thought> what command do you use to create the luks device?
[09:23:35] <abaumann> cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda3
[09:23:43] <abaumann> it's a real partition, not a loopback
[09:24:09] <deep42thought> `cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/loop0` works on my ALIX
[09:25:14] <abaumann> ok. it work in the virtual machine, but I have the nasty feeling KVM is emulating some opcodes just fine.
[09:25:17] * abaumann starts the real Alix
[09:25:39] <deep42thought> hmm, maybe, the commands needed are also supported by the alix?
[09:26:37] <deep42thought> cryptsetup plainOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/13b0e159-8573-40f8-a308-b34f1bbf1a6f swap --key-file=/dev/urandom --offset=2048
[09:26:37] <deep42thought> device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: No such file or directory
[09:26:46] <deep42thought> ^that was the confusing error message
[09:27:13] <abaumann> device mapper and kernel issue, not having a special ioctl?
[09:27:55] <abaumann> aha. reproduced on the alix
[09:30:48] <deep42thought> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 6
[09:30:48] <deep42thought> ioctl(6, TCGETS, HEXHEXHEX) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
[09:31:09] <deep42thought> is this indicating a problem of opening /dev/urandom?
[09:35:26] <abaumann> mmh. looks like cryptsetup tries to play terminal an the random device
[09:35:51] <abaumann> there were bugs in systemd around this topic in the past.
[09:37:20] <abaumann> I just tried to dd into a /password file and then use that one as a random password
[09:37:23] <abaumann> same problem.
[09:37:43] <deep42thought> ah, right, I tried that before, too
[09:38:19] <abaumann> ioctl(4, DM_TABLE_LOAD
[09:38:24] <abaumann> on the device mapper device
[09:38:34] <abaumann> this is more likelty the failing ioctl
[09:39:23] <abaumann> "device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: "
[09:39:30] <abaumann> the "on " is suspicious
[09:39:36] <deep42thought> yes
[09:39:40] <abaumann> so, it doesn't have a name for the device-mapper
[09:40:11] <deep42thought> semget returns 4 on pentium4, but 884736 on i486
[09:40:21] <deep42thought> is this the same file descriptor which is used later?
[09:40:52] <abaumann> semaphore is not a file descriptor, I think.
[09:42:40] <deep42thought> maybe, /dev/mapper/control refuses to do some operation which it cannot do and simply the error message is very broken?
[09:46:51] <abaumann> In dmesg I see: [ 959.662744] Error allocating fallback algo cbc(aes)
[09:46:51] <abaumann> [ 959.662881] device-mapper: table: 254:0: crypt: Error allocating crypto tfm
[09:46:54] <abaumann> [ 959.662980] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[09:47:07] <abaumann> so, I would check the configuration of the i486 kernel whether the cyphers are in
[09:47:28] <deep42thought> damnit, I totally forgot to check dmesg
[09:47:34] <abaumann> aes is one which would get executed as opcode on a modern cpu
[09:47:49] <abaumann> modprobe aes
[09:47:49] <abaumann> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'aesni_intel': No such device
[09:47:49] <abaumann> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'padlock_aes': No such device
[09:47:51] <abaumann> mmh
[09:48:17] <abaumann> linux kernel gets worse and worse.. or is it just me..
[09:49:05] <deep42thought> -# CONFIG_CRYPTO_CFB is not set
[09:49:05] <deep42thought> +CONFIG_CRYPTO_CFB=m
[09:49:27] <abaumann> that's a diff?
[09:49:29] <deep42thought> yes
[09:49:33] <abaumann> oups.
[09:49:34] <deep42thought> from i486 to pentium4
[09:49:44] <abaumann> this explains a lot.
[09:49:58] <abaumann> I'm sorry about that. But I don't remember where I copied the i486 config from?
[09:50:08] <abaumann> or did I?
[09:56:49] <abaumann> [root@arch32-stable-pentium4 ~]# pacman -S lilv
[09:56:50] <abaumann> resolving dependencies...
[09:56:50] <abaumann> warning: cannot resolve "libsord-0.so=0-32", a dependency of "lilv"
[09:56:50] <abaumann> warning: cannot resolve "libsratom-0.so=0-32", a dependency of "lilv"
[09:56:54] <abaumann> what's 0-32?
[09:57:11] <deep42thought> 32 bit, pkgver=0
[09:57:16] <deep42thought> or soname
[09:57:34] <deep42thought> yes, soname=0 and bittiness=32
[09:58:27] <abaumann> aha. so sord-0.16.2-1.1 and sord 0.16.4-1.1 have an ABI update, thus breaking lilv, thus breaking audacity
[09:59:05] <abaumann> same for sratom
[09:59:11] <abaumann> I try to push those to stable
[10:00:29] <deep42thought> the pkgrel-removal interferes with our sed-fu :-(
[10:00:49] <abaumann> yeah, I fear too
[10:00:58] <deep42thought> depends=("${depends[@]/java-environment>=8/java-environment=8}")
[10:01:01] <deep42thought> becomes
[10:01:07] <deep42thought> depends=("${depends[@]/java-environment>=8/java")
[10:01:13] <abaumann> urg.
[10:01:37] <abaumann> ok then, we are in for manual patching every package which comes with this funny idea from upstream.
[10:01:45] <deep42thought> nonono
[10:01:52] <deep42thought> I just need to make the regex stricter
[10:02:00] <abaumann> - and numbers or so?
[10:02:04] <deep42thought> e.g. a "$" is a clear sign, that things might go awfully wrong
[10:02:26] <abaumann> the problem is, you can still have arbitrary bash syntax in those "variables"
[10:02:49] <deep42thought> yes, so we will not remove pkgrels from those
[10:02:55] <deep42thought> but still from all "constant" definitions
[10:06:45] <deep42thought> looks good :-)
[10:08:52] <deep42thought> the part before [<=>] cannot contain "$" now, anymore
[10:09:07] <deep42thought> which should be reasonable - you can still have bash variables behind that
[10:09:08] <abaumann> audacity got pushed to stable, leaving a broken lilv (sord, sratom) behind.
[10:09:16] <deep42thought> hmm
[10:09:31] <deep42thought> "got" = "you did not push it", right?
[10:09:36] <abaumann> yes,
[10:09:39] <abaumann> I did now
[10:10:53] <abaumann> vvrng: audactity works now, some other software using lilv might be broken now
[10:12:19] <deep42thought> maybe, we should at some point check the whole diff of config.i486 vs config.pentium4 and see what is really necessary
[10:12:33] <deep42thought> (config.i686 and config.pentium4 are identical)
[10:13:07] <abaumann> what puzzles me, you could use encryption before on the alix, right.
[10:13:14] <deep42thought> yes
[10:13:18] <deep42thought> and I still can
[10:13:28] <deep42thought> maybe just the default mode for plain is not available
[10:13:33] <deep42thought> luks works, but plain does not
[10:13:36] <deep42thought> afaict
[10:13:37] <abaumann> ah
[10:15:36] <deep42thought> whaaaat???? my build slave downloads the mariadb sources FOR 71 HOURS NOW
[10:15:45] <abaumann> lol
[10:15:52] <abaumann> they cannot be SOOO big now ;-)
[10:15:53] <deep42thought> 96:43:55 71:04:52 25:39:03
[10:16:03] <deep42thought> total, spent, left
[10:17:49] <abaumann> this sounds like a 56k modem ;-)
[10:22:11] <abaumann> warning: cannot resolve "gdk", a dependency of "gtk-update-icon-cache"
[10:22:11] <abaumann> warning: cannot resolve "gtk-update-icon-cache", a dependency of "gtk2"
[10:22:17] <deep42thought> yes
[10:22:21] <abaumann> so parts of gtk3 are now a dependency of gtk2
[10:22:27] <deep42thought> this is the pkgrel-remover removing too much
[10:22:44] <deep42thought> "gdk" should be "gdk-update-icon-cache"
[10:23:05] <abaumann> oh.
[10:23:07] <deep42thought> which package does have "gdk" as a dependency?
[10:23:14] <abaumann> thundebird
[10:23:23] <buildmaster> i486/linux is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-11-25: https://archlinux32.org
[10:23:39] <deep42thought> dammit
[10:23:41] <deep42thought> checksum
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[10:28:47] <deep42thought> thunderbird does not depend on gdk
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[10:29:29] <deep42thought> or is "thundebird" a different package ;-)
[10:30:02] <deep42thought> gtk-update-icon-cache is the bad guy
[10:31:06] <deep42thought> but they're all good on the master mirror, now - so it's probably "just" a caching problem
[10:36:48] <abaumann> ah. ok.
[10:43:38] <abaumann> today is "anti-Friday-for-Future-day"
[10:43:46] <deep42thought> huh?
[10:43:54] <abaumann> I already got 6 newsletters all telling me, what I have to buy on a Black Friday
[10:44:07] <abaumann> this is a very American thing, no swapping also to us. :-)
[10:44:39] <deep42thought> isn't "black friday" after thanksgiving somewhen in the beginning of some month (was it november?)?
[10:44:55] <abaumann> yes, and a "all-sell-out-day" in the US.
[10:45:12] <deep42thought> but: not today, right?
[10:45:45] <abaumann> yes, very much so. :-_
[10:45:46] <abaumann> )
[10:46:12] <deep42thought> 2019 dateNovember 29
[10:46:14] <deep42thought> ah no
[10:46:17] <deep42thought> it *is* today
[10:47:26] <vvrng> did you guys snach something nice?
[10:48:00] <abaumann> hi vvrng: not really, my flat is so full of old computer stuff, I don't have the urge to buy something new. :-)
[10:48:07] <deep42thought> I already own everything nice :-)
[10:48:12] <abaumann> lol
[10:49:36] <abaumann> vvrng: is audacity working for you now?
[10:49:56] <abaumann> thunderbird-68.2.2.source.tar.xz ... FAILED (bad signature from public key F1A6668FBB7D572E)
[10:49:59] <abaumann> ui
[10:50:09] <deep42thought> they re-released?
[10:50:14] <abaumann> it seems.
[10:50:30] <abaumann> gpg: keyserver receive failed: End of file
[10:50:33] <abaumann> *sigh*
[10:50:40] <vvrng> unfortunately not
[10:50:47] <abaumann> should work now
[10:50:59] <abaumann> lilv got stuck in some ABI dependencies
[10:51:07] <deep42thought> abaumann: I have the key - do you want it?
[10:51:32] <abaumann> mmh. thanks for the offer, but my slaves should really try hard to get the keys themselves.
[10:51:40] <abaumann> I seem to have another key server setup f*up.
[10:51:52] <deep42thought> apropos key: how about that master key?
[10:51:59] <abaumann> oups
[10:52:38] <abaumann> what do you need from me? another key signed from my master key, similar to the sign key?
[10:52:40] <vvrng> I'm still getting the error unfortunately
[10:53:10] <vvrng> should I clean the pacman cache or do something before trying to install again?
[10:53:19] <abaumann> can help, yes
[10:53:57] <deep42thought> any public key with verifyable info from you, that this is the right one (e.g. a signature), signatures on all current build keys with that master key and a revocation certificate (which you can encrypt to DE9F7688CACF04FEB81A6C590AEEC90755DA7B5A)
[10:54:57] <abaumann> gpg --receive F1A6668FBB7D572E
[10:54:57] <deep42thought> the kernel fails to build on i486, because imagemagick is not available
[10:55:03] <abaumann> imports, then I get thunderbird-68.2.2.source.tar.xz ... FAILED (bad signature from public key F1A6668FBB7D572E)
[10:55:18] <deep42thought> yes, the signature is *bad*
[10:55:20] <abaumann> all this key stuff is hard to use and mostly snake oil in my opinion.
[10:55:24] <deep42thought> it is not, that it cannot be verified
[10:55:31] <deep42thought> lol
[10:57:06] <buildmaster> i486/linux is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-11-25: https://archlinux32.org
[10:59:14] <abaumann> vvrng: which mirror are you using? maybe it didn't propagate yet..
[11:00:46] <deep42thought> oops, latest kernel on i486 is from end of June - it did not build since then due to imagemagick :-D
[11:03:03] <abaumann> imagemagick for the kernel? lol :-)
[11:04:09] <vvrng> I will try refreshing the mirrorlist with reflector
[11:04:20] <deep42thought> maybe, they auto-create those nice penguins during boot with imagemagick?
[11:04:30] <abaumann> !grab deep42thought
[11:04:31] <phrik> abaumann: Tada!
[11:05:05] <abaumann> the penguins are autogenerated with librsvg soon, requiring rust. ;-)
[11:05:12] <deep42thought> uargh
[11:05:17] <vvrng> ahh! i did -Syyuu and then -S audacity and it works!
[11:05:25] <abaumann> \o/
[11:05:28] <deep42thought> that's when we will start replacing them with waving flags on archlinux32
[11:05:43] <abaumann> yep :-)
[11:05:52] <vvrng> sorry i'm a noob
[11:06:17] <deep42thought> vvrng: not necessarily - this has happened everyone of us before ;-)
[11:06:40] <abaumann> vvrng: np, we are all noobs, it depends on the environment we are in. :-)
[11:06:46] <deep42thought> lol
[11:06:50] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[11:06:51] <phrik> deep42thought: ūüéČ
[11:06:58] <vvrng> thank you very much
[11:07:20] <abaumann> np, happy somebody is using things we are not using ourselves, thus testing them :-)
[11:07:43] <vvrng> i bought this old thinkpad x60 and installed arch for the first time
[11:08:04] <vvrng> everything works great so far
[11:09:37] <vvrng> I plan on using it for making electronic music, arduino, etc.; and I've been so happy so far, i found some really great software
[11:12:00] <abaumann> mmh isn't a thinpad x60 64-bittish with a core duo or so?
[11:12:30] <abaumann> a, might depend on the exact model
[11:13:32] <abaumann> they were sold from Core Solo T300 to Merom Core Duo L7200
[11:14:00] <deep42thought> ### Now generating an X.509 key pair to be used for signing modules.
[11:14:00] <abaumann> ah, darn, a model where you cannot upgrade the cpu easily
[11:14:21] <vvrng> I'm running a T2400
[11:14:47] <vvrng> that sucks, but I love it because it's tiny
[11:15:05] <vvrng> and it is very easily librebootable
[11:15:33] <vvrng> also, an x61 motherboard is a drop-in upgrade
[11:15:54] <abaumann> if you 'grep flags /proc/cpuinfo', do you see a 'lm'?
[11:17:18] <deep42thought> abaumann: need another testing machine? https://www.ebay.com
[11:17:21] <phrik> Title: IBM ThinkPad T60 15" Core Duo T2400@1.83 GHz 60GB HD 2GB Ram for sale online (at www.ebay.com)
[11:17:30] <deep42thought> I'm astonished about the price
[11:17:53] <vvrng> i don't
[11:19:25] <abaumann> I think, I have a similar one at work. :-)
[11:19:32] <abaumann> Core Duo, 64-bit
[11:19:48] <abaumann> I only run 32-bit Archlinux32 on true 32-bit hardware ;-)
[11:20:06] <deep42thought> :-D
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[11:28:51] <vvrng> I managed to snach a mint replacement lcd panel for this one yesterday for 30 euros
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[13:35:36] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[13:35:36] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[13:35:37] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> error messages which I write, usually are "you did X wrong" (the normal kind) or "I have no clue, how you got here, so I cannot help either" (the desperate kind)
[13:42:14] <buildmaster> i686/firefox is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[14:52:13] <deep42thought> the kernel build fails on i486 due to sphinx
[14:52:29] <deep42thought> I guess, that means, we did not successfully disable the build of the documentation
[14:59:07] <KitsuWhooa> Can someone have a look at recompiling openal without sse2 on i686?
[14:59:09] <KitsuWhooa> Thread 1 "etr" received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
[14:59:11] <KitsuWhooa> 0xb765de32 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1
[14:59:14] <KitsuWhooa> it's a movq
[15:07:28] <deep42thought> KitsuWhooa: recompiling is easy - the hard question is: what should we change to remove the illegal instruction?
[15:08:58] <KitsuWhooa> yeah, okay, good question :p
[15:09:18] <KitsuWhooa> I'll try to compile it with the default pkgbuild and see what happens
[15:10:02] <deep42thought> recompiling on a movq-incapable platform most probably works
[15:10:15] <KitsuWhooa> oh :p
[15:10:22] <KitsuWhooa> hmmm
[15:10:30] <deep42thought> the problem is: we're building on x86_64 with setarch
[15:10:55] <deep42thought> so any fancy auto-detection of features detects all the nice features :-D
[15:11:05] <deep42thought> cmov, sse, sse2, ...
[15:11:41] <KitsuWhooa> Hm. I'm not familiar with setarch but I have makepkg on my desktop. I could try that
[15:11:57] <deep42thought> have a look at devtools32
[15:12:17] <deep42thought> https://mirror.archlinux32.org
[15:12:18] <phrik> Title: Index of /x86_64/releng/ (at mirror.archlinux32.org)
[15:12:30] <deep42thought> it installs extra-i686-build
[15:12:33] <deep42thought> which uses setarch
[15:12:46] <deep42thought> I have to leave now, cu later
[15:14:34] <abaumann> -- Building with support for CPU extensions:
[15:14:34] <abaumann> -- Default, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1
[15:14:43] <deep42thought> ui
[15:14:44] <abaumann> there must be a flag there
[15:15:00] <abaumann> the sphinx issue in the kernel is really annoying
[15:15:45] <abaumann> ah. openal is cmake, that should make things easier.
[15:16:21] <abaumann> CMakeLists.txt has a bunch of switches like SSE2_SWITCH
[15:16:47] <abaumann> the probing assumes you build on the CPU you will run afterwards, so only patching out the whole section will help, I'm afraid
[15:17:26] <abaumann> IF(CMAKE_SIZEOF_VOID_P MATCHES "4")
[15:17:29] <abaumann> and no else. nice
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[15:20:50] <KitsuWhooa> ah
[15:21:02] <KitsuWhooa> Doesn't sound too bad
[15:22:14] <abaumann> the problem is: there are tons of badly written guesser out there..
[15:22:56] <abaumann> I was also thinkging to disable the sse2 etc. switches directly in gcc, so if stupid scripts probe for it, they will see a cpu not supporting those flags.
[15:23:07] <abaumann> same we tried with setarch, but it mainly failed
[15:25:39] <KitsuWhooa> So if I were to build this on an x86_64 machine, how would I do it?
[15:26:02] <abaumann> you need the devtools32 and asp32
[15:26:05] <KitsuWhooa> I'm willing to hack around cmake and give you a patch that disables SSE2
[15:26:07] <KitsuWhooa> ah
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[15:26:41] <abaumann> for pentium4 we also have to disable SSE3, SSE4 whatever.
[15:26:48] <KitsuWhooa> yeah
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[15:38:23] <abaumann> aha: make bzImage modules htmldocs
[15:38:31] <abaumann> make bzImage modules is enough on i486
[15:43:47] <abaumann> ah. asp32 drives me mad!
[15:44:10] <abaumann> I have now 4 layers of sources, SVN, upstream git, extra/ master,
[15:44:57] <abaumann> mmh.
[15:45:07] <abaumann> linux has htmldocs in asp32 checkout, not in upstream repo
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[15:47:40] <buildmaster> i686/texlab is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:09:46] <buildmaster> pentium4/texlab is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[16:57:39] <vvrng> i just remembered I've also been unable to install gimp through pacman
[16:57:47] <vvrng> i got it working with flatpak though
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[18:10:15] <buildmaster> i686/grafana is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:25:25] <buildmaster> pentium4/grafana is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[19:47:27] <KitsuWhooa> abaumann: this works https://tasossah.com
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[19:48:42] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[19:48:42] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[19:48:44] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[19:48:53] <deep42thought> abaumann: have you updated your remote for asp32?
[19:53:00] <deep42thought> also note, that the upstream version of linux in trunk/ differs from the current version in core/
[19:53:22] <deep42thought> so you should `asp32 export core/linux` - else our patches will fail
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[21:26:37] <nit-picker> abaumann: your slave eurobuild6-5 builds pentium4/chezmoi for more than a day, now (1 day(s) 11:13:49)
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[22:20:59] <buildmaster> i686/geogebra is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[22:30:17] <buildmaster> pentium4/geogebra is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[23:55:59] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -16 < 100 days).