#archlinux32 | Logs for 2020-10-24

[00:36:40] <trotz> 2020/10/24 00:35 CRIT buildmaster Current Load CRITICAL - load average: 12.81, 10.74, 8.18
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[08:05:05] <trotz> 2020/10/24 08:04 WARN buildmaster OS updates 1 updates, 0 ignored
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[09:41:41] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[09:41:41] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[09:41:42] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> no --please-do-not-use-enormous-amounts-of-memory-while-compressing ;-)
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[12:26:48] <buildmaster> i686/pngquant is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[12:27:04] <buildmaster> i686/kinfocenter is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:27:40] <buildmaster> pentium4/brltty is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:27:51] <buildmaster> i686/expat is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[12:28:50] <buildmaster> i686/qemu is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:29:14] <buildmaster> pentium4/mpd is broken (says eurobuild3): https://archlinux32.org
[12:29:22] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-platform is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:29:54] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-platform is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:30:28] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-audioencoder-flac is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:31:02] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-audioencoder-lame is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:31:28] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-audioencoder-lame is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:31:57] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-audioencoder-vorbis are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:32:34] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-audioencoder-vorbis are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:33:00] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-audioencoder-wav is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:33:28] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-audioencoder-wav is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:34:10] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-inputstream-rtmp is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:34:36] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-inputstream-rtmp is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:35:08] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-asteroids are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:35:36] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-screensaver-asteroids are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:36:03] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-biogenesis are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:36:37] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-screensaver-biogenesis are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:37:13] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-greynetic is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:37:50] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-screensaver-greynetic is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:38:22] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-matrixtrails are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:38:54] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-screensaver-matrixtrails are broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:39:23] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-pingpong is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:40:00] <buildmaster> pentium4/kodi-addon-screensaver-pingpong is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
[12:40:32] <buildmaster> i686/kodi-addon-screensaver-pyro is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[12:42:45] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[12:42:46] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[14:00:45] <stipa> I'm trying to bring AMD Duron machine to life. I don't know if i686 version or Arch will work with it because i don't see sse, but i see it has mmx and cmov...
[14:01:14] <stipa> it has 3dnow! :/
[14:01:53] <stipa> and 3dnowext
[14:02:06] <stipa> are those equivalent to sse instructions?
[14:16:41] <demonicmaniac3> no they are distinct from sse
[14:17:15] <demonicmaniac3> durons have sse1 only but no sse2 so you'd be using i686 and not pentium4 for those
[14:22:24] <girls> stipa: note, that "architecture = auto" in /etc/pacman.conf should autoselect the correct value (pentium4 vs i686)
[14:22:54] <girls> if you do not have sse at all, then you'll need to use the i486 branch
[14:23:03] <girls> but that one comes with quite few graphical packages
[14:23:17] <girls> (blame librsvg)
[14:23:55] <girls> check out https://archlinux32.org for hints
[14:23:56] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 - Architecture Overview (at archlinux32.org)
[14:24:31] <stipa> thanks demonicmaniac3 girls
[14:24:45] <demonicmaniac3> but yeah no arch "proper" because sse2 != x86_64. x86_64 mandates sse2 but it does mean the machine has x86_64 too
[14:24:51] <demonicmaniac3> +not
[14:25:43] <girls> I believe, the easiest way to check if you can install arch for x86_64 is to boot the dual-boot iso and see if it offers to boot an x86_64 linux :-)
[14:27:44] <stipa> i got kerenl panick with i686
[14:27:52] <stipa> arch version i686*
[14:28:14] <girls> what does `grep sse /proc/cpuinfo` give you?
[14:28:15] <stipa> :(
[14:28:24] <girls> sounds like you need to go the i486 route
[14:28:49] <stipa> i did look at i484 but i have no clue how to do it
[14:28:56] <girls> this would increase the users of that branch from 2 to 3 :-)
[14:29:00] <stipa> not enough skills
[14:29:02] <girls> there is no iso for i486
[14:29:18] <stipa> no iso, yeah
[14:29:33] <girls> well, there is one extremely old iso from abaumann
[14:29:47] <girls> but I think, it's broken beyond repair, currently
[14:30:01] <girls> e.g. it's easier to bootstrap via pacman from another machine than to use the iso
[14:30:24] <girls> can you remove the hdd and connect it to a different machine which runs arch?
[14:30:36] <stipa> nope
[14:30:52] <stipa> why?
[14:32:35] <demonicmaniac3> duron is athlon xp though it has sse1 and cmov
[14:32:39] <girls> then you could use pacstrap on that box and install any architecture you like
[14:32:42] <stipa> this is the second machine i got panick with i686, the other is intel laptop that has needed instructions but, it panickes at the start of the install
[14:32:56] <demonicmaniac3> oh i guess we have someone with my issue :)
[14:33:20] <demonicmaniac3> stipa: 22:33 < demonicmaniac3> https://paste.xinu.at
[14:33:22] <demonicmaniac3> is it that?
[14:33:28] <girls> it panickes during pacstrap?
[14:33:58] <stipa> i have no clue what a pacstrap is, give me a moment girls
[14:34:57] <stipa> no, demonicmaniac3 , my has something to do with init
[14:35:18] <demonicmaniac3> ah so earlier even
[14:35:19] <stipa> No working inti found.
[14:35:24] <girls> pacstrap is the step, where you actually install packages into the new system
[14:35:25] <demonicmaniac3> o.O
[14:35:38] <girls> so it crashes earlier, hmmm
[14:35:45] <stipa> yes
[14:35:55] <stipa> before the install
[14:35:58] <demonicmaniac3> so the installer doesn't even come up at all? no working init found isn't a kernel panic/dump though sounds more like an issue with the iso
[14:36:28] <girls> stipa: can you post a screenshot of the error message?
[14:37:21] <stipa> ok, give me few minutes
[14:38:19] <girls> take your time :-)
[14:46:06] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3 https://ibb.co
[14:46:08] <phrik> Title: AMDuron-Panick-Resized — ImgBB (at ibb.co)
[14:47:16] <girls> "Initramfs unpacking failed: write error" - sounds like you're out of memory or something
[14:47:24] <girls> how much ram do you have?
[14:47:32] <stipa> 128MB
[14:47:35] <girls> :-/
[14:47:38] <girls> might be too few
[14:47:48] <stipa> laptop has 192
[14:47:50] <girls> (too few for the iso)
[14:48:06] <stipa> maybe
[14:49:13] <stipa> could i stick hdd in windows machine and install arch on it and then try to stick it to thi AMD Duron machine?
[14:49:25] <girls> "Currently booting the ISO and installing from it needs at least 288 MB of RAM, during installation I recommend
[14:49:28] <girls> adding a 512MB swap and mount it as very first action before doing a pacstrap or a mkinitcpio."
[14:49:32] <girls> ^says abaumann
[14:49:53] <stipa> yeah, not enough ram
[14:49:55] <girls> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[14:49:57] <phrik> Title: i486 motivation thread / Artwork, Screenshots & Setups / Arch Linux 32 Forum (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[14:50:05] <stipa> to even start the installation before setting the swap
[14:50:12] <girls> also see https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[14:50:14] <phrik> Title: Archlinux32 specific installation notes / Installation / Arch Linux 32 Forum (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[14:50:37] <girls> I think, your only option is to install to the hdd on a different machine with more ram
[14:51:04] <girls> even network boot will not work most probably, because that also loads a lot into ram IIRC
[14:51:35] <stipa> i'll research that
[14:51:43] <stipa> i found
[14:51:52] <stipa> that i could boot the installation from the disk
[14:52:10] <stipa> but that option needs ram too i guess
[14:52:35] <girls> I think, it's far easier to install the final system when booted on a different machine
[14:52:54] <girls> e.g. take any machine you like, attach you hdd, boot the arch iso on that machine and install from it
[14:53:07] <girls> only make sure, you install to the right partition ;-)
[14:53:38] <girls> or is it no option to attach the hdd to a different box?
[14:53:46] <stipa> i
[14:53:50] <stipa> have win10 machine
[14:54:04] <girls> no problem, you can boot the arch iso on that one, too
[14:54:05] <stipa> can stick in it stuff, no problem
[14:54:14] <stipa> so
[14:54:19] <girls> just make sure, you do not overwrite your win10 partition :-)
[14:54:35] <stipa> i just install arch on that disk and put it back in AMD Duron one?
[14:54:47] <girls> almost
[14:54:56] <girls> you need to make sure, it installes i686 arch
[14:55:11] <girls> and you need an extra "setarch i686" around any arch-chroot or chroot calls
[14:55:11] <stipa> right
[14:55:49] <girls> e.g., first, you need to hard-code "Architecture = i686" in /etc/pacman.conf of the iso (and then in the installed system)
[14:56:17] <stipa> hmmmmmmmm
[14:56:21] <girls> ah, the setarch part is obsolete
[14:56:34] <girls> if you boot the i686 iso, then it does not need another setarch :-)
[14:56:47] <demonicmaniac3> yeah you just vim /etc/pacman.conf in the iso and make it i686 instead of auto for architecture line
[14:56:50] <demonicmaniac3> that's all there is to it
[14:56:53] <stipa> so, i'm all ser
[14:56:57] <stipa> set*
[14:57:11] <girls> demonicmaniac3: I think, stipa has to do it in /mnt/etc/pacman.conf, too
[14:57:35] <girls> because this one might detect the sse2 of the host and try to install pentium4 when chrooted
[14:57:44] <stipa> but i'll use i686 iso, why do i need to tell it to be i686 when it already is?
[14:58:02] <demonicmaniac3> stipa: the i686 iso simply has i686 packages in the live system it uses
[14:58:17] <demonicmaniac3> the conf defaults to auto for the packages it downloads
[14:58:28] <demonicmaniac3> checking the host cpuid and what it supports
[14:58:48] <stipa> i see
[14:58:55] <demonicmaniac3> girls: fair point if he does want to install more stuff after pacstrap and chroot
[15:03:47] <girls> at least, that's what always happens to me "huh, this install comes without an editor? and without rsync? and, and, and ..."
[15:11:14] <stipa> soooooo
[15:11:31] <stipa> I'll do it on Win 10
[15:11:48] <stipa> i have to go inside of an arch 1686 iso
[15:12:04] <stipa> edit file /mnt/etc/pacman.conf
[15:12:33] <girls> /etc/pacman.conf first
[15:12:45] <stipa> instead of auto i have to put i686 so that pacstrap doesn't download stuff for actual cpu of my Win10 machine
[15:12:48] <girls> the other won't exist, until you run the `pacstrap ...` command
[15:12:56] <girls> yep
[15:14:39] <stipa> ok
[15:14:51] <stipa> i'll try that, thanks girls demonicmaniac3
[15:15:04] <girls> I hope, it works :-)
[15:15:25] <stipa> if it doesn't exploed i'll let you know...
[15:15:50] <stipa> explode*
[15:15:52] <girls> let us know, if it explodes, too :-)
[15:16:13] <stipa> if'll sty alive i will
[15:28:07] <demonicmaniac3> girls: https://bugzilla.kernel.org i probably have found the issue
[15:28:10] <phrik> Title: 206697 – #PF: supervisor read access in kernel mode, #PF: error_code(0x0000) - not-present page while building a large project (at bugzilla.kernel.org)
[15:28:32] <demonicmaniac3> my thinkpad has a radeon and does load drm
[15:28:46] <demonicmaniac3> gonna try real quick with nomodeset
[15:40:00] <demonicmaniac3> girls: yep. ran through booting installer with radeon.agpmode=-1 as in that bugreport
[15:40:09] <demonicmaniac3> so it should be fixed upstream and not a problem with archlinux32
[15:40:18] <demonicmaniac3> i guess void simply had nomodeset on or something
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[15:42:29] <stipa> demonicmaniac3: girls i have unrared the iso but there is no pacman.conf :/
[15:44:34] <stipa> this is what i see when i enter unrared iso https://ibb.co
[15:44:36] <phrik> Title: pita — ImgBB (at ibb.co)
[15:45:15] <demonicmaniac3> stipa: you don't need to extract the iso really
[15:45:34] <demonicmaniac3> when you're booted into the iso before you pacstrap/mnt you just vim /etc/pacman.conf and replace Auto with i686
[15:46:30] <stipa> ok, will try that
[15:48:09] <demonicmaniac3> just make sure you're booting the i686 one if you have downloaded the dual iso
[15:48:28] <stipa> i have i686
[15:48:37] <stipa> don't think its "dual"
[15:48:45] <demonicmaniac3> good
[15:50:13] <stipa> yeah
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[16:12:00] <stipa> demonicmaniac3: girls for some reason i can't navigate Arch install menu, the keyboard works ok in BIOS...
[16:12:30] <stipa> keyboard is wireless Logitech
[16:12:57] <stipa> have two different models, both wireless and theydon't work
[16:13:04] <stipa> can't start the Arch installation
[16:17:19] <demonicmaniac3> stipa: probably have to set it in efi to usb legacy whatever thingies
[16:17:37] <stipa> i'll try
[16:17:47] <demonicmaniac3> if it's a modern win10 machine it's probably an efi machine and you're booting i686 in bios mode csm and need legacy usb support for that i'd imagine
[16:19:17] <stipa> USB Legacy Function
[16:19:21] <stipa> must be it
[16:21:29] <demonicmaniac3> sounds like it
[16:28:35] <stipa> it is
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[16:58:20] <stipa> i'm in
[16:58:43] <stipa> just need to connect to wifi
[16:59:19] <stipa> cool there's wpa supplicant preinstalled on i686 version of Arch
[16:59:29] <stipa> ifconfig
[16:59:36] <stipa> and that good stuff
[16:59:59] <stipa> that's not the case with x86_64 one
[17:05:39] <stipa> awesome, i have intenet
[17:19:36] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3 in /etc/pacman.conf Architecture is set to =auto
[17:20:29] <stipa> i guess that's on the cdrom
[17:24:06] <stipa> i've changed it to Architecture = i686
[17:57:31] <girls> stipa: that sounds right
[17:57:35] <girls> (sry, I was afk)
[18:03:32] <stipa> no worries
[18:04:06] <stipa> i'm going to run this command # pacstrap /mnt base linux linux-firmware
[18:04:25] <stipa> i hope pacstrap.conf in /mnt/etc/pacman.conf will appear
[18:06:30] <girls> it should - pacman.conf, not pacstrap.conf, though ;-)
[18:06:42] <stipa> right
[18:06:54] <stipa> my bad
[18:07:37] <girls> np :-D
[18:08:30] <stipa> no explosions for now
[18:09:04] <girls> hehe :-D
[18:13:36] <stipa> :)
[18:16:02] <stipa> ok
[18:16:28] <stipa> changed from auto to i686 in /mnt/etc/pacman.conf
[18:17:53] <stipa> i guess now i just carry with the installation to the end as it is in arch wiki?
[18:18:07] <girls> yes
[18:18:07] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3
[18:18:10] <stipa> ok
[18:18:22] <girls> have you set up some swap?
[18:18:26] <stipa> yes
[18:18:29] <girls> good :-)
[18:18:34] <stipa> 466MB or so
[18:18:41] <stipa> yeah
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[18:48:11] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3 what should be the grub target in this command # grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdX ?
[18:48:47] <stipa> i get an error if i type i686-pc
[18:49:36] <stipa> /usr/lib/grub/i686-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please...
[18:51:17] <stipa> in that folder i can choose i386-efi or i386-pc
[18:51:24] <stipa> nothing else
[19:48:30] <girls> i386-pc is fine
[19:48:44] <girls> it's the same across all x86 architectures
[19:48:58] <girls> i486, i686, pentium4, x86_64 all use i386-pc
[19:49:09] <girls> stipa ^
[20:07:49] <stipa> girls: ok
[20:14:43] <stipa> i broke it :(
[20:15:14] <stipa> i get grub>
[20:15:17] <stipa> after the restart
[20:16:01] <girls> on the windows machine?
[20:16:04] <girls> :-/
[20:16:08] <stipa> yes
[20:16:15] <girls> then you selected the wrong hdd for grub-install :-(
[20:16:31] <stipa> only one disk is connected
[20:16:45] <stipa> the one i'm installing arch on
[20:17:04] <girls> ah, and you try to boot that one on the windows machine, now?
[20:17:09] <girls> that *should* work
[20:17:26] <stipa> it should, yeah
[20:17:33] <stipa> but it doesn't
[20:18:16] <stipa> i think i already had this problem with this laptop machine i'm typing from, but i can't remember what it was...
[20:18:36] <girls> wrong hdd in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[20:18:53] <stipa> how can i go there?
[20:18:59] <girls> did you run `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`?
[20:19:10] <stipa> nope
[20:19:18] <girls> you should do it :-)
[20:19:34] <stipa> do i need to do everything again?
[20:19:42] <girls> nono
[20:19:43] <stipa> the whole installation*
[20:19:48] <girls> just boot the install medium
[20:19:52] <girls> mount your partition(s)
[20:19:56] <girls> arch-chroot into them
[20:20:07] <girls> and then only run the grub-mkconfig command you missed
[20:20:24] <stipa> ok
[20:20:34] <girls> doing everything again is windows-style ;-)
[20:20:52] <girls> "I installed three times from scratch, but still get the same error"
[20:20:53] <girls> :-D
[20:21:36] <stipa> right, right
[20:28:36] <stipa> it worked
[20:28:57] <stipa> will try it on old machine
[20:29:18] <girls> :-)
[20:36:54] <stipa> hmm
[20:37:01] <stipa> i saw entering grub and
[20:37:06] <stipa> no image
[20:37:09] <stipa> on the screen
[20:37:18] <stipa> girls:
[20:37:38] <stipa> "Input Not Support" on the screen
[20:37:44] <girls> probably some kernel parameters required to turn off some fancy graphics stuff
[20:37:52] <girls> huh? hmmm
[20:38:14] <stipa> out of range
[20:38:17] <stipa> robably
[20:38:22] <stipa> probably*
[20:38:28] <stipa> resolution or something
[20:38:31] <stipa> but
[20:38:39] <stipa> hmmm
[20:38:39] <girls> or some unsupported graphics mode
[20:38:42] <stipa> no but
[20:38:49] <girls> but I have no idea about kernel parameters :-/
[20:38:54] <stipa> graphic is old onbpard
[20:39:02] <stipa> 1997 or something like that
[20:39:22] <girls> do you see some boot-up lines after grub at all?
[20:39:32] <stipa> no
[20:39:36] <stipa> blank screen
[20:39:43] <stipa> i saw like
[20:39:46] <stipa> grub enu
[20:39:49] <stipa> menu*
[20:39:51] <girls> can you try to boot the fallback image?
[20:40:13] <girls> maybe, the normal image misses something, because it was built on a different host
[20:40:26] <stipa> how do i do that?
[20:40:33] <girls> select "fallback" option in grub
[20:40:42] <stipa> hmmm
[20:40:49] <stipa> i think i can't
[20:40:56] <girls> huh?
[20:40:56] <stipa> it just flys through grum
[20:41:01] <stipa> just a moment
[20:41:06] <girls> it should take 5 seconds
[20:41:11] <girls> in default config
[20:41:53] <stipa> no grum
[20:41:57] <stipa> grub*
[20:42:02] <stipa> it just says
[20:42:22] <girls> maybe grub already crashes
[20:42:24] <stipa> Welcome To Grub and when it needs to enter it the screen goes blank
[20:42:49] <demonicmaniac3> grub2 default config probably does dumb gfx-payload things
[20:43:06] <demonicmaniac3> tryin to set graphical modes/vesa of some sort
[20:43:18] <stipa> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com
[20:43:21] <stipa> ike this
[20:43:25] <stipa> like*
[20:45:07] <stipa> demonicmaniac3: may be, have no idea what's going on
[20:45:56] <stipa> i have two agp video cards, i'll try to check with them instead with onboard VGA, maybe it'll be better
[20:46:06] <stipa> if they work of course...
[20:47:09] <demonicmaniac3> grub2 tends to do weird things with trying to set gfx modes and what not, grub is before anything in the kernel for modesetting or whatever
[20:47:18] <demonicmaniac3> via vesa extensions of bios and stuff
[20:47:51] <demonicmaniac3> you could try chrooting in and check if it tries to set some GFX payload keep or video modes and set that to text or just try using syslinux that's generally less headache :D
[20:48:37] <stipa> ok, got in with agp card
[20:48:47] <stipa> but there are errors
[20:50:40] <stipa> i'm in the emergency shell
[20:50:47] <stipa> will take a photo
[20:57:10] <stipa> i'm in the emergency shell and the keyboard is not respoding
[20:57:25] <girls> is it a usb keyboard?
[20:57:33] <stipa> no ps2
[20:57:45] <stipa> but the keyboard on windows was usb wireless logitech
[20:58:19] <stipa> i had to engage usb legacy something
[20:58:19] <girls> the grub menu should not depend on the actual hardware
[20:58:58] <girls> e.g. it should not matter on which host you installed grub
[20:59:07] <stipa> i passed over grub
[20:59:12] <girls> only the ramdisk will differ - but you didn't get that far
[20:59:18] <girls> oh, right
[20:59:21] <girls> I forgot
[20:59:25] <stipa> :D
[20:59:31] <girls> have you tried the fallback image?
[20:59:40] <stipa> just a sec, i'll upload the image
[20:59:45] <stipa> picture*
[21:03:39] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3 https://ibb.co
[21:03:40] <phrik> Title: DSC-7694 — ImgBB (at ibb.co)
[21:04:11] <girls> wrong uuid or missing device driver
[21:04:26] <girls> but since it booted ok on the win10 machine, the uuid seems correct
[21:04:47] <girls> so I would say, you're missing some device driver for your ata bus or similar
[21:05:52] <stipa> my best bet is to get more ram i guess
[21:06:26] <girls> I think, this issue is unrelated to ram
[21:06:55] <stipa> i could install it from this old machine with as you said at least 288MB
[21:07:26] <stipa> this missing drivers thing is above my skills
[21:08:11] <stipa> maybe i have the infrastructure to do it somehow but i don't ahve skills
[21:08:13] <girls> unfortunately, it's also only a "wild guess" on my part
[21:08:31] <stipa> well, we tried
[21:08:37] <girls> the emergency console does not work at all, right?
[21:08:48] <stipa> no keyboard input
[21:08:53] <girls> hmmm
[21:08:53] <stipa> it's flashing
[21:09:02] <stipa> the cursor is flashing
[21:09:14] <stipa> eagirly waiting a command
[21:09:31] <girls> yeah, so the keyboard does not work there
[21:09:46] <stipa> yeah
[21:09:47] <girls> just to re-check: this is in the fallback image?
[21:09:55] <stipa> it works in bios
[21:09:59] <girls> yes
[21:10:14] <girls> grub loads its own drivers
[21:10:16] <girls> which sometimes fails
[21:11:05] <stipa> right
[21:11:49] <girls> maybe you can try a different keyboard
[21:12:05] <girls> to see in the emergency console if there are *any* hdds
[21:13:02] <girls> IIRC, I think, I had trouble with ps2 keyboards on my arch32 machine lately, too
[21:13:23] <girls> but I have so many keyboards at hand, that this is usually no big deal ;-)
[21:13:59] <stipa> hmmmm
[21:14:06] <stipa> i have only one ps2 keyboard
[21:14:19] <stipa> but there are 2 usb 1.1 ports on the board
[21:14:38] <stipa> i could try to connect one into one of those
[21:14:45] <girls> I think, a different ps2 keyboard will show the same problem
[21:14:48] <demonicmaniac3> i have some hazy memories of missing i8042 stuff on arch proper
[21:14:52] <demonicmaniac3> arch32 probably has the same issue
[21:16:14] <demonicmaniac3> might have to add atkbd to the fallack image for after grub anyways
[21:20:53] <stipa> girls: demonicmaniac3 ok, usb keyboard works
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[21:26:26] <stipa> hmm
[21:27:01] <stipa> i think i did the second installation with auto in /etc/pacman.conf
[21:27:17] <stipa> maybe that's what's wrong
[21:28:25] <stipa> i'll do it one more time just to be sure
[21:28:48] <girls> wait a sec
[21:28:58] <girls> you can look into /var/cache/pacman/pkg
[21:29:06] <girls> to see what architecture the packages have
[21:29:36] <stipa> huh
[21:29:49] <stipa> in emergency shell?
[21:29:57] <girls> or even better: look into /var/lib/pacman/local/ and see what architecture the *installed* packages have
[21:30:03] <girls> no, from the install medium
[21:30:14] <stipa> ok, i'll go there now
[21:30:26] <girls> if you don't see the hdd in emergency shell, there is not much, what you can do
[21:30:47] <stipa> i see
[21:30:52] <stipa> root structure
[21:31:02] <stipa> or not
[21:31:06] <girls> hmm?
[21:31:24] <stipa> if i "ls" there is some folder structure
[21:31:29] <girls> ah, ok
[21:31:31] <stipa> in emergency shell
[21:31:43] <girls> yes, you have to look into the desc file of some package of your choise
[21:31:49] <girls> e.g. of linux-...
[21:31:57] <girls> and look into the line after '%ARCH%'
[21:32:08] <stipa> right
[21:32:09] <girls> ah, sry
[21:32:19] <girls> I was talking about the content of /var/lib/pacman/local
[21:32:44] <girls> what do you have in /dev in the emergency shell?
[21:32:56] <girls> some sda, sdb?
[21:33:13] <stipa> no
[21:33:28] <stipa> bunch of tty
[21:33:37] <stipa> no sd*
[21:33:51] <girls> is this a sata disk?
[21:33:54] <girls> or ideß
[21:33:57] <stipa> ide
[21:33:57] <girls> *ide?
[21:33:59] <stipa> 6GB
[21:34:02] <girls> then look for hda
[21:34:24] <stipa> no
[21:34:50] <stipa> i'm going to boot install medium
[21:37:28] <stipa> oh
[21:37:37] <stipa> the arch works on win10 machine
[21:38:02] <girls> yes, I think, you already wrote that
[21:38:21] <stipa> right
[21:38:23] <stipa> let's see
[21:40:44] <stipa> packages have i686 in their names
[21:40:52] <girls> good
[21:40:59] <girls> so they're i686, not pentium4
[21:41:07] <stipa> too bad
[21:41:12] <girls> also i686 in /var/lib/pacman/local/*/desc?
[21:41:17] <stipa> sec
[21:42:18] <girls> grep -xFhA1 '%ARCH%' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/desc | sort -u
[21:42:54] <stipa> what's the /*/ ?
[21:43:09] <girls> a shell glob which matches all installed packages
[21:44:40] <stipa> i can't CD into it
[21:44:51] <stipa> No such file or dir...
[21:45:06] <girls> you booted the installed system on the win10 machine?
[21:45:15] <stipa> yes
[21:45:25] <girls> and `grep -xFhA1 '%ARCH%' /var/lib/pacman/local/*/desc | sort -u` does not work?
[21:46:19] <stipa> --
[21:46:21] <stipa> any
[21:46:25] <stipa> i686
[21:46:28] <stipa> pentium4
[21:46:39] <girls> ok, so *some* packages are pentium4 packages
[21:47:06] <girls> `grep -lxF pentium4 /var/lib/pacman/local/*/desc` should tell you, which
[21:48:00] <girls> or you could use the bazooka-solution and reinstall all packages :-D
[21:48:14] <girls> `pacman -Qq | pacman -S -`
[21:49:00] <stipa> the lat grep command has an error No such file or dir...
[21:49:04] <stipa> last*
[21:49:29] <stipa> my typo
[21:49:32] <stipa> sry
[21:49:34] <girls> np
[21:49:48] <stipa> it outputs nothing
[21:49:58] <stipa> no no
[21:50:06] <stipa> it has output
[21:50:08] <stipa> sec
[21:50:09] <girls> :-)
[21:50:45] <stipa> /var/lib/pacman/local/linux-5.8.14.arch1-1.0/desc
[21:50:56] <girls> so the kernel is pentium4 :-D
[21:51:06] <stipa> shit
[21:51:09] <stipa> :D
[21:51:21] <stipa> i'll try bazooka
[21:51:26] <girls> nono
[21:51:34] <girls> just do `pacman -S linux`
[21:51:38] <stipa> ok
[21:51:44] <girls> but check your /etc/pacman.conf
[21:51:51] <girls> if it has "Architecture = i686"
[21:52:05] <stipa> it is
[21:52:23] <stipa> ok i'll execute pacman -S linux
[21:52:43] <stipa> error
[21:53:06] <stipa> faied to prepare transaction (package architecture is not valid)
[21:53:15] <girls> ah, right
[21:53:19] <girls> pacman -Syu linux
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[21:53:29] <girls> your database is most probably also for the wrong architecture
[21:53:54] <stipa> robably
[21:54:00] <stipa> i got a bunch of errors
[21:54:05] <stipa> mirror errors
[21:54:18] <stipa> invalid url for servers
[21:54:31] <stipa> failed to synchronize all databases
[21:54:41] <girls> did you uncomment some mirror?
[21:54:53] <stipa> i din't touch anything like that
[21:54:57] <stipa> :/
[21:55:06] <girls> :-)
[21:55:16] <girls> you should select some mirrors in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
[21:56:03] <stipa> oh
[21:56:12] <stipa> i'm not connected to the internet
[21:56:18] <stipa> bummer
[21:56:22] <stipa> sec
[21:56:42] <stipa> mirrors are uncommented
[21:56:50] <stipa> all of them
[22:03:11] <girls> ah, ok
[22:03:27] <girls> can you establish a net connection?
[22:04:10] <stipa> not really
[22:04:16] <stipa> missing dhclient
[22:04:23] <girls> :-(
[22:05:23] <stipa> i tried it manually with ifconfig and putting dns server into the /etc.resolv.conf but i can't ping google
[22:05:38] <stipa> /etc/resolv.conf
[22:05:41] <girls> default route is set?
[22:05:46] <stipa> noo
[22:06:04] <stipa> ok
[22:06:07] <stipa> got it
[22:06:15] <stipa> it was the route
[22:10:14] <girls> gotta go, cu tomorrow
[22:10:57] <stipa> right
[22:11:00] <stipa> bye