#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-08-19

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[13:28:41] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
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[14:06:59] * buildmaster failed to execute a mysql query - can you have a look at "tmp.mysql-functions.query.stdin.2018-08-19T13:57:29.IEAzNc"?.
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[15:41:52] <buildmaster> imagemagick is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[15:55:28] <buildmaster> imagemagick6 is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[17:41:49] <KitsuWhooa> Hey, I updated my computer, and urxvt now complains about libperl.so missing. I'm using the latest version of rxvt-unicode from the repos and perl was recently updated.
[17:41:52] <KitsuWhooa> Any idea what's up with that?
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[17:43:54] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[17:44:08] <deep42thought> KitsuWhooa: the new perl slipped into stable w/o permission
[17:44:43] <deep42thought> although a missing library / link is something, that should have been detected :-/
[17:44:48] <deep42thought> what's the exact error?
[17:45:12] <KitsuWhooa> libperl.so is missing
[17:45:15] <KitsuWhooa> that's all it says
[17:45:21] <KitsuWhooa> one moment
[17:45:43] <KitsuWhooa> urxvt: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:45:55] <deep42thought> ah, yes, I see
[17:46:09] <deep42thought> that is not detected by the build system, currently
[17:46:33] <deep42thought> downgrading perl or switching to testing are the only options currently
[17:47:35] <deep42thought> sry, I'm in preparation to leave for my vacation tomorrow and I don't really have the time to solve this perl thing before it :-/
[17:47:55] <KitsuWhooa> I also had to uninstall imagemagick for perl to update
[17:48:03] <KitsuWhooa> and a bunch of dependencies that was chained to
[17:48:11] <deep42thought> yeah, probably the same problem
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[17:48:29] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[17:48:35] <abaumann> Hi deep42thought.
[17:48:36] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[17:48:43] <abaumann> Not in holidays? Or not yet. :-)
[17:48:47] <deep42thought> not yet
[17:49:26] <abaumann> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[17:49:27] <phrik> Title:Perl rebuild stuck in the middle / Pacman / Pacman Upgrades / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[17:49:31] <abaumann> Had similar issues with perl
[17:49:44] <KitsuWhooa> Yup
[17:50:15] <abaumann> To me it's clear. Those packages have a dependency on 'perl' itself. The perl < 5.27 means, they don't compile with a newer perl? I really doubt that.
[17:50:37] <deep42thought> no
[17:50:52] <deep42thought> perl keeps (like python) its files in a different directory for each version
[17:50:59] <deep42thought> so you need to depend on the specific version
[17:51:05] <abaumann> ah. right.
[17:51:07] <deep42thought> rebuilding against the new usually is enough
[17:51:10] <KitsuWhooa> Downgrading perl fixed urxvt for now. Thanks
[17:51:19] <deep42thought> ... or moving/symlinking perl ;-P
[17:51:19] <abaumann> ls /usr/lib/perl5/5.28/
[17:51:48] <abaumann> ..or just rebuild everything which looks like a perl module or uses perl in some way..
[17:52:37] <deep42thought> for the repositories it's more "move everything which is dependenent on perl from testing to stable"
[17:52:50] <deep42thought> but I hesitate to do this before our python rebuild is ready ...
[17:54:18] <abaumann> .. yeah. too many packages in the queue already
[18:14:20] <deep42thought> hmm, urxvt not depending on a specific perl version is a bug, I think
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[18:47:32] <buildmaster> qt5-declarative is broken (says nlopc46).
[18:53:03] <buildmaster> haskell-lucid is broken (says nlopc46).
[19:12:34] <deep42thought> abaumann: your qt5-declarative patch is failing now
[19:26:10] <abaumann> deep42thought: ah thanks. Anyway, I wanted to go over all patches and see if they are still needed.
[19:39:06] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: pls no symlink
[19:39:31] <elibrokeit> also perl is a bit odd since the soname has no version information because perl --wtf
[19:39:50] <deep42thought> symlink was just a joke
[19:40:33] <deep42thought> is depending on "perl" and not "perl>=5.28", "perl<5.29" ok for archlinux or is this considered a bug?
[19:52:00] <elibrokeit> it's perfectly okay, we don't support partial updates :p
[19:52:05] <abaumann> qt5-declarative our SSE2 patch collides with FS#59533..
[19:52:22] <deep42thought> !bug 59533
[19:52:22] <phrik> https://bugs.archlinux.org
[19:52:33] <elibrokeit> some packages used a macro in the PKGBUILD, which tried to detect ELF files in the perl vendor directory, and added versioned deps on perl
[19:53:18] <elibrokeit> but these days the directory is itself versioned, so problem solved...
[19:53:20] <deep42thought> ok, so we need to add some perl-version-detection logic, too
[19:53:46] <deep42thought> then why do perl-* packages depend on specific perl versions at all?
[19:54:02] <elibrokeit> and the macro was weird and confusing, and when used with AUR packages resulted in locking up pacman -Syu (because versioned deps suck) and also just in general breaking makepkg --printsrcinfo
[19:54:02] <deep42thought> this could be dropped by the same argument
[19:54:20] <elibrokeit> they should not depend on specific perl versions, last I checked...
[19:54:31] <elibrokeit> we dropped most/all of that during the last great perl rebuild
[19:54:34] <elibrokeit> I think
[19:54:38] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[19:54:43] <deep42thought> then I'm not up-to-date
[19:54:45] <elibrokeit> In fact, we did so by dropping that macro
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[22:54:48] <buildmaster> blueman is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[23:46:30] <buildmaster> gnome-latex is broken (says buildknecht2).
[23:54:45] <buildmaster> gst-validate is broken (says buildknecht2).