#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-01-17
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[03:14:34] <buildmaster> i686/influxdb is broken (says nlopc46).
[03:28:43] <buildmaster> i686/sagemath-doc is broken (says nlopc43).
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[09:04:12] <T`aZ> hi, i think im hitting this bug : https://www.linuxquestions.org
[09:04:13] <phrik> Title: [SOLVED] trap / segfaults since updating -current (at www.linuxquestions.org)
[09:04:31] <T`aZ> tldr, glib 2.58.2 version is borked
[09:20:10] <T`aZ> so im manually building 2.59 to see if it's fixed
[09:24:32] <T`aZ> or maybe it's gtk 3.24.2, im confused
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[09:32:59] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[09:32:59] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[09:33:00] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> naa.. not testing never has bad consequences.. ;-)
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[09:33:58] <abaumann> deep42thought: I had to push quite some packagages from testing to stable for the i486 branch (bash, gawk, util-linux), they were all linked against libreadline.so.8. I also had to push libreadline.so.8.
[09:34:49] <T`aZ> well, updating to glib 2.59 doesnt solve the issue :(
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[09:49:19] <abaumann> T`aZ: sorry to hear that.
[09:49:39] <abaumann> What I wonder, is this also showing in 64-bit Arch, if yes, it should be a bug report there..
[09:50:50] <abaumann> /usr/bin/systemd-sysusers: error while loading shared libraries: libidn2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:50:56] <abaumann> on i486. oh oh.
[09:51:11] <abaumann> well, the chroot installs without running the systemd hooks..
[09:51:21] <T`aZ> i have no idea about the 64bits version :( , im testing with newer gtk3 now
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[10:46:23] <T`aZ> so i don't have time ot find the root cause of the major breakage of glib/gtk/whatever :'(
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[12:10:34] <buildmaster> i686/linux is broken (says nlopc46).
[12:37:38] <buildmaster> i686/linux-zen is broken (says rechenknecht).
[12:38:34] <yans> Hello.
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[13:40:22] <buildmaster> i686/sagemath is broken (says eurobuild3).
[14:21:45] <T`aZ> omfg, it's the upgrade to systemd 240 that broke it
[14:22:07] <T`aZ> reverting back to 239 allows me to login correctly via lightdm :s
[14:23:54] <T`aZ> https://forum.manjaro.org
[14:23:55] <phrik> Title: Systemd 240 update breaks graphical login - Unstable Branch - Manjaro Linux Forum (at forum.manjaro.org)
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[14:30:00] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[14:30:00] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[14:30:00] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> nah, I never ran emacs - it's a nice os, but I couldn't find a suitable editor for it
[14:30:34] <deep42thought> T`aZ: I think, I saw something about systemd 240 breaking some login manager on the forums
[14:34:33] <T`aZ> yes, this is fucked up, we are in 2019, a software segfaulting because an ENVIR is not set, is not cool, at all
[14:35:05] <T`aZ> im not targetting archlinux32 to be clear here, i love you guys ^^
[14:35:40] <T`aZ> but the instability in general of the whole systemd/x11/gtk3 etc
[14:35:50] <T`aZ> </rant> :p
[14:36:10] <deep42thought> no offense taken :-D
[14:36:38] <deep42thought> now I need to look into one of our buggy routines ;-)
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[15:24:01] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[15:24:01] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[15:24:03] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> Never understood why there is a fallback ramdisk, but no fallback kernel image.
[15:24:45] <deep42thought> Hi Andreas!
[15:24:54] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[15:28:10] <deep42thought> this dependency-breaking is really strange - I almost get the feeling, packages will be moved _only_ when they break something :-D
[15:31:33] <abaumann> which would help to implement the correct logic by just applying a NOT in the right place. ;-)
[15:49:39] <abaumann> systemd 240 shows many instabilities: network and resolved system fails 1 out of 2 times in a lxc container.
[15:49:51] <deep42thought> ah - now I remember
[15:50:02] <deep42thought> it was tyzoid who had issues when updating to systemd 240
[15:50:11] <deep42thought> on the packages.archlinux32.org container^
[15:50:13] <abaumann> ah. so I can confirm those issues.
[15:51:23] <abaumann> yeah: more, like: the first time the network doesn't come up for sure, the second time almost always..
[15:51:53] <abaumann> the lightdm/gtk mess I have seen already, I think, there is a bug report in our bug system.
[15:58:41] <thePiGrepper> hi. sorry if Im interrupting but, is upstream also having those issues with systemd 240?
[15:59:01] <deep42thought> tyzoid had those issues on 64bit, I think
[15:59:41] <thePiGrepper> lightdm/gtk issue??
[15:59:56] <deep42thought> no, systemd 240
[16:00:07] <deep42thought> network stuff
[16:00:09] <deep42thought> in lxc
[16:00:12] <deep42thought> IIRC
[16:00:20] <thePiGrepper> one question though, everyone by default has systemd-resolved enabled?
[16:00:27] <abaumann> I hope not :-)
[16:00:30] * deep42thought has not
[16:00:53] <abaumann> * abaumann usually uses netctl
[16:00:55] <deep42thought> actually, I was kicking out systemd-resolved from my /etc/nsswitches on all my boxes because it was behaving strange
[16:01:09] <thePiGrepper> me either. actually Im not sure if Im testing that correctly. I do know that the service is not enabled, but is there a chance that networkmanager is calling it?
[16:01:42] <thePiGrepper> after a basic installation, that shouldnt be on right?
[16:01:44] <deep42thought> wether the service runs or not does not matter - the question is if anything resolves through it
[16:01:59] <deep42thought> it looks to me, like it's the default nowadays
[16:01:59] <thePiGrepper> deep42thought: right. then how do you test it?
[16:02:09] <deep42thought> remove it from /etc/nsswitch
[16:02:25] <thePiGrepper> right, so if you're not using dnsmasq, you're probably using this right?
[16:02:28] <deep42thought> "hosts: files mymachines myhostname resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns" -> "hosts: files mymachines myhostname dns"
[16:09:25] <finsternis> I'm still with 239.370-1.0 but since at least 1 month I need to run dhclient to get networking working, whereas before it was automatically working after boot
[16:10:26] <finsternis> without the need of manually typing `sudo dhclient`
[16:13:35] <abaumann> ok, lightdm and sddm are broken.. I'm really happy, I'm using slim only. :-)
[16:18:58] <deep42thought> oh, I found the error
[16:19:05] <deep42thought> of our update-db logic
[16:20:40] <thePiGrepper> abaumann: broken how? is there a thread in the forum? should I stop myself from updating?? :)
[16:21:07] <thePiGrepper> lightdm user here..
[16:23:01] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[16:23:02] <phrik> Title: FS#60 : lightdm gtk greeter fails (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[16:23:40] <abaumann> sddm is something qt-ish.. hang on..
[16:24:02] <abaumann> hah. no.
[16:24:07] <abaumann> sddm works. now.
[16:24:18] <abaumann> I'm still pushing out libreadline.so.8 fixes.. so.
[16:24:41] <deep42thought> you say, it was libreadline's fault?
[16:24:54] <abaumann> no clue. but either that, or something else fixed it..
[16:24:56] <abaumann> hard to say.
[16:25:05] <deep42thought> anyway: it's fixed :-D
[16:25:26] <abaumann> I'm also confising things between i486 and i686 constantly :-)
[16:25:28] <abaumann> *confusing
[16:25:55] <deep42thought> maybe we should rename "i486" to "arcane" - so there is less confusion?
[16:26:38] <deep42thought> db-update should now work (more) properly (than before)
[16:26:40] <abaumann> 'retrocomputing' rather. :-)
[16:26:57] <deep42thought> there's a slot about retrocomputing on fosdem - you wanna go?
[16:27:19] <abaumann> I get the feeling, it's more about gaming and emulators..
[16:27:26] <abaumann> ..I prefer the real thing :-)
[16:27:32] <deep42thought> there was a nice talk about old numerical algorithms
[16:28:50] <abaumann> *abaumann shudders
[16:29:41] <deep42thought> bad reminder of some college courses?
[16:29:58] <abaumann> yeah..
[16:32:29] <deep42thought> oooh, my i486 build slaves fail to boot with kernel panics :-(
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[16:33:30] <abaumann> urgh. really?
[16:33:35] <deep42thought> ah
[16:33:48] <deep42thought> /sbin/init fails to load /usr/lib/libidn2.so.0
[16:33:49] <abaumann> there was no kernel update recently, was there, for i486?
[16:34:09] <abaumann> ah. this is not kernel, but systemd
[16:34:14] <deep42thought> "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!..."
[16:34:19] <deep42thought> yeah
[16:34:37] <abaumann> I remember, I had to keep a symlink for libidn2 around and force updating of libsystemd, systemd and systemd-sysvcompat
[16:34:50] <abaumann> ..and NOT boot in the meantine..
[16:35:10] <deep42thought> I would simply untar the old libidn2.so.0 from the cache
[16:35:14] <abaumann> lost my Pentium-S yesterday this way.
[16:35:19] <abaumann> yep. better.
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[16:35:22] <deep42thought> I first need to find out how to mount the disk, though
[16:35:57] <abaumann> I have some TFTP, PXE and iPXE on floppy infrastructure, so, I can boot very old machines via network and just fix things on the root partition.
[16:36:09] <abaumann> The standard Archlinux ISO is no good for old machines..
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[16:36:30] <abaumann> *abaumann remembers he should upgrade this infstrastrucure once in a while..
[16:37:06] <deep42thought> hmm, I have to leave
[16:37:13] <deep42thought> I'll look into this some other time ...
[16:37:26] <abaumann> ok. cu.
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[18:33:15] <buildmaster> i686/electron is broken (says rechenknecht) - as usual.
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[20:47:00] <buildmaster> i686/deepin-session-ui is broken (says rechenknecht).
[20:48:02] <thePiGrepper> hi. anyone knows how to get a signed source from a git repo in a PKGBUILD?
[20:48:50] <thePiGrepper> I saw an example where the url has the following form:git+https://<url>?signed#tag=$pkgver"
[20:50:02] <thePiGrepper> to be signed, you need something else done? the commit has to be made by the owner of the key in validpgpkeys?
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[22:23:22] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[22:23:23] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[22:23:23] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> one day, some genius will prove, that all programming languages are isomorphic and there is actually only _one_ compiler
[22:23:57] <deep42thought> thePiGrepper: if you clone a git repo (be it via https or some other protocol), then you'll also receive all the signatures of the commits - if available
[22:24:17] <deep42thought> this is, how it works technically
[22:24:35] <deep42thought> and for PKGBUILD's I think, eli is the one to ask - as he implemented it ;-)
[22:25:15] <deep42thought> but it should be easy to verify by providing the wrong key in validgpgkeys and see if the check fails
[22:49:56] <thePiGrepper> deep42thought: I see. I'm just testing this now. what happens if the commit pointed by the PKGBUILD is not a signed one, will it pass always or fail always. I need to do some testing.
[22:50:21] <deep42thought> I guess it fails
[22:50:28] <deep42thought> if you provided the "signed" parameter
[22:51:02] <thePiGrepper> the reason Im asking this is because asp upstream has removed just today the 'dist' target in the makefile. I think you're using that to package the source right?
[22:53:01] <deep42thought> umm, often we put our own dist into our fork
[22:53:11] <deep42thought> but a closer-to-upstream solution would be nice, too
[22:54:56] <thePiGrepper> well, I know that there are some differences in the makefile as well, but I was thinking that maybe it would be good to make the effort to change the PKGBUILD so that it uses signed commits from the git repo.
[22:55:18] <deep42thought> yeah, that would be nice
[22:55:22] <thePiGrepper> so that we can use the upstream makefile
[22:57:00] <thePiGrepper> also, because I sent some patches today fixing some issues and I they were already merge along with some new commits, including this change on the makefile, so I wanted to merge the current HEAD into asp32 branch and rebase the development of the port to that point
[22:57:35] <thePiGrepper> *the development of the port to arch32 that I've been working on
[23:13:22] <deep42thought> thePiGrepper: 39e54baec564125949ffa39f00f6f8e661aedeb6 should be what you wanted
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[23:13:31] <deep42thought> ... if I understood it correctly at that late hour
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