#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-04-03
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[05:25:45] <KitsuWhooa> abaumann: I definitely wouldn't suggest starting out on a multilayer motherboard :p
[05:26:16] <KitsuWhooa> might be possible to chop off the top of the chip and replace the battery without desoldering the whole thing though
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[06:46:04] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[06:46:04] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[06:46:05] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> ahm, what is actually in the package "vulkan-headers" on i486? I thought, we disabled all vulcans?
[06:46:36] <deep42thought> abaumann, KitsuWhooa: I think it's safer to desolder and solder a blank socket so you can switch ICs more easily in the future
[06:46:49] <deep42thought> "safer" = "less mechanical stress"
[06:47:18] <KitsuWhooa> yeah but if you don't have experience desoldering something like this from a motherboard, you have more chances of damaging the part while taking it out IMO
[06:47:56] <KitsuWhooa> s/(part)/\\1 and board/
[06:57:14] <deep42thought> ok, depending on the geometry, it might be easier to first cut all the pins and then desolder each pin individually
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[08:33:10] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:33:10] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:33:10] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> computers ranked by dirt: smokers, car mechanics, bedroom, ...
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[13:26:20] <buildmaster> i686/devtools are broken (says rechenknecht).
[13:41:51] <deep42thought> the build of devtools fail, because I still did not fix devtools :-D
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[13:47:45] <bill-auger> ah but is that the chicken or the egg
[13:47:58] <deep42thought> I killed the chicken, so there is no egg :-)
[13:50:25] <deep42thought> or more precisely: I broke the x86_64 chicken, so we cannot lay any eggs currently, so the i686 chicken cannot hatch :-D
[14:27:03] <buildmaster> i686/x264 is broken (says rechenknecht).
[14:27:08] <deep42thought> not really
[14:27:26] * deep42thought was just too impatient :-)
[14:28:33] <buildmaster> girls, my database is dirty again ...
[14:28:34] * buildmaster goes insane.
[14:28:41] <deep42thought> ...
[14:33:48] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
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[17:24:24] <buildmaster> i686/postgresql is broken (says rechenknecht).
[17:36:17] <buildmaster> i686/openshadinglanguage is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[18:05:19] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[18:05:19] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[18:05:20] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> golang-asvnp-acwduac-sefc-evfsx-vb4fs-sefvcy is broken (says me)
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[19:09:19] <vfw> I need to learn how to switch to archlinux32. (This system has not been touched in 2 years.)
[19:09:35] <deep42thought> there are instructions on archlinux32.org/Download
[19:09:53] <deep42thought> hopefully, they're still up to date :-D
[19:09:58] <deep42thought> if not, let us know
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[19:34:38] <vfw> deep42thought: Not working
[19:34:54] <vfw> failed retrieving file 'community.db' from mirror.math.princeton.edu : error setting certificate verify locations:
[19:35:48] <vfw> (response to command pacman -Syy archlinux32-keyring-transition )
[19:36:33] <bill-auger> you probably need to update ca-certs first
[19:36:51] <vfw> How to update ca-certs?
[19:37:13] <bill-auger> install it manualy with pacman -U
[19:37:36] <bill-auger> just a guess - if the error is about web certs
[19:44:20] <vfw> https://pastebin.com
[19:44:21] <phrik> Title: mrt - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[19:45:05] <vfw> errors from sudo pacman -Syy archlinux32-keyring-transition
[19:51:17] <deep42thought> !wtf ca-certificates.crt
[19:51:17] <phrik> deep42thought: core/ca-certificates-utils community/gnustep-base
[19:51:43] <deep42thought> vfw: you can/should(?) download ca-certificates manually and update that with pacman -U
[19:51:48] <deep42thought> (like bill-auger said)
[19:52:45] <deep42thought> or you could use a mirror with http (and not https)
[19:52:47] <deep42thought> for a start
[19:55:26] <vfw> deep42thought: From where do I download ca-certificates ?
[19:57:45] <deep42thought> from any mirror you like
[19:57:56] <deep42thought> e.g. https://mirror.archlinux32.org
[19:58:02] <bill-auger> find the file on the mirror http://mirror.math.princeton.edu
[19:58:04] <phrik> Title: Index of /pub/archlinux32/pool (at mirror.math.princeton.edu)
[19:58:42] <bill-auger> copy the URL and pass that to pacman -U THE_URL
[19:58:46] <deep42thought> there is even a link on https://www.archlinux32.org :-) (but it may fail due to HSTS)
[19:58:47] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 - ca-certificates 20181109-1.0 (any) (at www.archlinux32.org)
[20:03:51] <vfw> ffmpeg2.8: installing libvpx (1.7.0-1.1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=4-32'
[20:04:03] <vfw> Should I just remove ffmpeg
[20:04:05] <vfw> ?
[20:07:36] <vfw> ffmpeg2.8: installing libvpx (1.7.0-1.1) breaks dependency 'libvpx.so=4-32'
[20:10:27] <bill-auger> that was the problem i had the other day
[20:12:02] <bill-auger> and i cant remember how i fixed it
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[20:15:19] <bill-auger> i think that ended up deing due to the incomplete .part file in /var/cache/pacman
[20:15:43] <bill-auger> vfw: try clearing your cache pacman -Scc
[20:20:44] <vfw> bill-auger: Ok, did that and: "could not satisfy dependencies"
[20:21:11] <deep42thought> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[20:21:13] <phrik> Title: Upgrading may result in x265 dependency warning / Announcements / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[20:21:34] <vfw> :: libxfont: removing fontsproto breaks dependency 'fontsproto>=2.1.3'
[20:23:26] <deep42thought> xorgproto now replaces fontsproto
[20:24:59] <vfw> :: libxfont: removing fontsproto breaks dependency 'fontsproto>=2.1.3'
[20:25:19] <deep42thought> have you tried 'pacman -Syu xorgproto'
[20:25:36] <vfw> trying now
[20:26:06] <vfw> same error
[20:26:13] <deep42thought> if everything else fails, you can use (possibly multiple) -d to pacman to skip the dependency checks
[20:26:21] <bill-auger> i remember that one - it was a long time ago
[20:26:25] <deep42thought> but then you should verify that all dependencies are met afterwards
[20:26:58] <bill-auger> https://labs.parabola.nu
[20:26:59] <phrik> Title: Bug #1635: [xorgproto] Broken dependence with fontsproto. - Packages - Parabola Issue Tracker (at labs.parabola.nu)
[20:27:09] <bill-auger> TLDR pacman -R libxfont
[20:27:10] <vfw> Ok, ignoring dependencies
[20:28:08] <bill-auger> and as a last resort sudo pacman -Syu --nodeps
[20:28:39] <deep42thought> although using --nodeps on /all/ packages is probably a _really_ bad idea for a major upgrade
[20:28:48] <bill-auger> ok 12 months ago - thats a long time in arch years yea
[20:28:52] <deep42thought> because you will also miss all the libidn and libicu and what-not-else updated
[20:29:24] <bill-auger> true yes that was only to fix a minor bump at the time
[20:30:06] <bill-auger> i wouldnt even attempt a 2 years fast forward - new ISO wipe it
[20:30:20] <deep42thought> nah
[20:30:22] <deep42thought> that's too much
[20:30:51] <deep42thought> vfw: maybe you can get somewhere by using --ignore on all the conflicting packages?
[20:31:10] <deep42thought> (if they're not too important)
[20:33:33] <vfw> Ok, ignoring dependencies.... we'll see how it goes...
[20:33:44] <vfw> Thanks all!
[20:33:48] <deep42thought> keep an install medium around - just in case :-)
[20:33:54] <deep42thought> vfw: np, good luck!
[20:34:21] <deep42thought> (no need to use the install medium for installing from scratch - just a usable live environment might be handy)
[20:37:08] <vfw> Well, just need to re-purpose this laptop for VFW post 2137 for a while - (to allow canteen manager to control / restart POS)
[20:41:29] <bill-auger> great to know arch32 can be put to service selling liquor
[20:43:39] <vfw> haha.... yea
[20:43:55] <deep42thought> !grab bill-auger
[20:43:56] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[20:44:46] <vfw> This is an HP Mini 5101 (small laptop)
[21:32:00] <vfw> Rebooting....
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[23:57:54] <buildmaster> i686/vulkan-tools are broken (says buildknecht).