#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-12-09
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[00:04:31] <eschwartz> abaumann, deep42thought: lots of useful software still uses python2 though :(
[00:04:59] <eschwartz> (I'd be up for removing gtk2 myself, but I have personal stakes in some of the python2-only software)
[00:05:11] <eschwartz> also, good luck removing mercurial from the repos :p
[00:07:55] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -25 < 100 days).
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[06:04:05] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[06:04:06] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[07:25:11] <buildmaster> i486/displaycal is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-12-07: https://archlinux32.org
[07:54:12] <buildmaster> i686/openvdb is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[08:03:08] <buildmaster> pentium4/openvdb is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[08:08:43] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:08:44] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:08:45] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> it was too slow - they don't offer that speed anymore, so they rounded down to 0
[08:34:54] <buildmaster> any/python-tomlkit is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[15:08:53] <buildmaster> i686/vibe-d is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:52:48] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[16:52:48] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[16:52:50] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> "hmm, that git is still running - maybe I should start another, identical one"
[17:34:16] <buildmaster> i486/ispc is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[17:41:53] <buildmaster> i486/lldb is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:43:12] <buildmaster> i486/intel-opencl-clang is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[21:58:52] <GNUtoo> hi,
[21:59:21] <GNUtoo> I'm a Parabola developer, and I use Parabola i686 on my main laptop,
[21:59:49] <GNUtoo> and I often see many breakages due to sync issues between Parabola, arch32 and archlinux
[21:59:56] <GNUtoo> *Arch32 and Archlinux
[22:01:13] <GNUtoo> The issues are often things like libs missing (libicui18n.so.65: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) or more recently the python version breakage (/usr/lib/python3.7/ -> /usr/lib/python3.8) but things like python are rather the exception
[22:01:51] <GNUtoo> When I'm sure that it's an arch32 issue, is there a way for me to send a patch?
[22:01:59] <GNUtoo> It'll be way faster than opening a bug
[22:02:10] <GNUtoo> and I can describe the issue in the patch as well
[22:03:54] <bill-auger> GNUtoo: it looks like both of the mai devs are not in the channel
[22:04:03] <GNUtoo> like git format-patch -1 && git send-email --to="archlinux 32 mailing list <>" 0001-*
[22:04:13] <GNUtoo> oh ok
[22:04:29] <bill-auger> there is a bug tracker but you would need one of them to approve the registration - there is a mailing list though
[22:05:07] <GNUtoo> bill-auger: I've an account on the bugtracker but it doesn't work for me:
[22:05:28] <bill-auger> it needs manual admin approval
[22:05:38] <GNUtoo> (1) It takes too much time on my side to describe the bug there etc, and I'd prefer to send the patch instead of doing that
[22:05:55] <GNUtoo> so at the end of the day I ignore the bugs and wait for it to be fixed
[22:06:06] <GNUtoo> (2) it takes time for arch32 developers to look into the bug
[22:06:58] <GNUtoo> git-send-email would work for me + it works great offline etc
[22:07:00] <bill-auger> i suppose you could just open a ticket on the parabola bug tracker and we refer them to it some other time
[22:07:08] <bill-auger> ok this is the list https://lists.archlinux.org
[22:07:10] <phrik> Title: arch-ports Info Page (at lists.archlinux.org)
[22:10:42] <eschwartz> GNUtoo: any fixes could be applied to https://git.archlinux32.org
[22:10:44] <phrik> Title: packages - Archlinux32 package modifications (at git.archlinux32.org)
[22:10:58] <GNUtoo> bill-auger: I even usually don't open ticket in Parabola anymore, I fix and push
[22:11:08] <eschwartz> the style is, that any PKGBUILD file in there is appended to (modifying) an archlinux.org PKGBUILD, and other files are replacements
[22:11:45] <eschwartz> so, many PKGBUILDs can get minor tweaks e.g. to add an i686-specific source entry, but do not need to fork the PKGBUILD
[22:12:17] <GNUtoo> so it's like bbappends in yocto?
[22:12:39] <GNUtoo> how do you distinguish between the PKGBUILD that is appended and the one that replaces an archlinux PKGBUILD ?
[22:12:59] <eschwartz> I googled it and it doe seem like they are the same concept.
[22:13:21] <eschwartz> No PKGBUILDs should replace an archlinux PKGBUILD entirely, you generally don't need that big of a change!
[22:13:36] <eschwartz> although some are arch32-only like archlinux32-keyring
[22:13:46] <GNUtoo> ok, I see so if the path doesn't exist it creates a new PKGBUILD
[22:13:53] <eschwartz> so those "bbappend" to a nonexistent file, which is equivalent to replacing, yes
[22:13:57] <GNUtoo> Thanks
[22:14:04] <GNUtoo> Can I send patches to the mailing list?
[22:14:11] <GNUtoo> And what are the testing requirements?
[22:14:18] <eschwartz> I guess so?
[22:14:30] <GNUtoo> Thanks a lot
[22:14:39] <eschwartz> I'm in a cheerleader support role here, other than signing the transition keyring.
[22:14:58] <eschwartz> it is abaumann and deep42thought who could tell you how they expect contributions
[22:15:06] <GNUtoo> ok
[22:17:01] <GNUtoo> So for me if it takes less time fixing upstream than suffering the consequences of the breakages it's a win for everybody. This way it also free me more time for other contributions.
[22:20:12] <GNUtoo> (Else it's more problematic for me as I'm already involved in way too much free software projects)
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[23:25:44] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -26 < 100 days).
[23:50:04] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-transition-20191103-1-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -26 < 100 days).