#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-12-19
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[03:45:55] <jirido_> Hi. I am thinking of installing arch32 on an old acer with 270n cpu.. is that then i686 i would use?
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[04:31:30] <buildmaster> i486/gammu is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[04:35:35] <buildmaster> i486/opendbx is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[04:36:56] <buildmaster> i486/gdal is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[04:37:05] <buildmaster> i486/libzdb is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[04:42:39] <buildmaster> i486/yate is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[04:44:11] <buildmaster> i486/sysbench is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[04:46:24] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[04:51:07] <buildmaster> i486/kea is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-08-31: https://archlinux32.org
[04:53:57] <buildmaster> i486/freeradius are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[04:56:21] <buildmaster> i486/dovecot is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[05:15:54] <buildmaster> i486/libratbag is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[05:17:45] <buildmaster> i686/crystal is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[05:18:24] <buildmaster> pentium4/crystal is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
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[05:20:38] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[05:38:27] <buildmaster> i486/nodejs are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-12-18: https://archlinux32.org
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[07:14:08] <abaumann> jirido_: https://ark.intel.com
[07:14:09] <phrik> Title: Intel Atom® Prozessor N270 (512 KB Cache, 1,60 GHz, 533-MHz-FSB) Produktspezifikationen (at ark.intel.com)
[07:14:19] <abaumann> supports SSE2, so you can use pentium4.
[07:14:29] <abaumann> Or actually let pacman decide automatically when installing. :-)
[07:37:22] <abaumann> deep42thought: error: failed retrieving file 'archlinuxewe.db' from arch.eckner.net : Failed to connect to arch.eckner.net port 443: Connection refused
[07:38:50] <abaumann> ah. I see, the server has issues.
[07:43:58] <abaumann> mmh. nagios says the master mirror is down, but I assume this is only the web interface, rsync and ssh on the buildmaster seem to work fine
[07:54:17] <abaumann> youtube-dl, ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pyparsing'
[07:54:30] <abaumann> I reschedule it.
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[08:21:34] <deep42thought> abaumann: yes, I rebooted that machine, but forgot to check all services came back again - and nginx did not
[08:24:12] <deep42thought> plus: It seems, I have bricked my alix - thus I'm a little less connected, when I'm at home :-/
[08:41:44] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -35 < 100 days).
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[09:38:49] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[09:38:50] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
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[09:53:07] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[09:53:07] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[09:53:09] <phrik> buildmaster: * abaumann killed a borg on the builmaster
[09:53:13] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[09:53:18] <abaumann> morning deep42thought
[09:53:37] <abaumann> youtube-dl, I accidently had python-pyparsing in IgnorePkg, clever. :-)
[09:53:51] <deep42thought> :-D
[09:54:00] <abaumann> I moved all subpackages of php by hand (for instance php-xsl)
[09:54:13] <deep42thought> yeah, we do not track php versioned dependencies
[09:54:15] <abaumann> the buildmaster only pushed the main php 7.4.x package, not the subpackgaes
[09:54:22] <abaumann> it's not that.
[09:54:23] <deep42thought> but I have no idea, how to extract them, (yet)
[09:54:33] <abaumann> subpackages should be moved with the main package, always.
[09:54:45] <deep42thought> I used a lot of --progressive lately
[09:54:52] <abaumann> I also had systemd, systemd-libs and systemd-sysvcompat all in different versions (a week ago maybe)
[09:54:55] <abaumann> ah.
[09:55:15] <deep42thought> I thought, I could shrink the list of broken linking by that ...
[09:55:22] <deep42thought> but apparently it's not such a good idea
[09:55:36] <abaumann> was worth a try :-)
[09:55:48] <deep42thought> or maybe, we should still force the moving of all split packages in one blob
[09:56:24] <abaumann> it would break subpackages depending on other packages, for instance a php-sqlite (making up something) would be moved and could break due to sqlite
[09:56:34] <abaumann> it's really a question of picking one of two evils..
[09:56:47] <deep42thought> right
[09:57:04] <deep42thought> but moving split packages independently feels wrong in so many ways
[09:57:26] <abaumann> and occationaly breaking a subpackage might be less a problem
[09:57:34] <abaumann> than breaking the main and most subpackages
[09:57:42] <deep42thought> hmm
[09:57:53] <deep42thought> I will make nit-picker complain about spread-out split packages
[09:58:00] <deep42thought> then we can decide on each occassion manually
[09:58:17] <deep42thought> how does that sound?
[09:58:27] <abaumann> that's a good idea.
[09:58:42] <abaumann> gives us maybe ideas of which strategy is best for which cluster of packages
[10:20:26] * abaumann hates dracut in combination with LVM on MDRAID
[10:20:42] <deep42thought> you're using dracut?
[10:20:52] <abaumann> in the office, not for fun. :-)
[10:21:23] <abaumann> in 2019 it seems hard to get simple things working.. like filesystem actually being mounted after a reboot :->
[10:21:35] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[10:21:36] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[10:22:02] * abaumann wishes for a spell-checker in the grabbing functionality, otherwise those mistakes last forever ;-)
[10:23:09] <abaumann> nope, /dev/mapper remains empty, no matter what. and vgchange -a y activates a LVM volume manually, but not while booting.
[10:23:35] * abaumann considers adding a systemd unit doing vgchange outside of the ramdisk
[10:24:14] <abaumann> anyways. modern installers are a nightmare if it comes to some more professional setups of partitions.
[10:25:00] <abaumann> lvm2-activation.service, "not found".. mmh
[10:25:42] <abaumann> Centos 8 makes sort of a beta impression currently
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[10:26:24] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[10:26:24] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[10:26:26] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
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[10:26:49] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[10:26:50] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[10:26:51] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
[10:26:54] <abaumann> I think they changed the way LVM partitions are detected.. there is broken code and scripts and things are not really working. *sigh*
[10:27:00] <deep42thought> ok, let's see, if nit-picker does what I want it to do
[10:27:12] <abaumann> ah. you changed it already?
[10:27:38] <deep42thought> as I said: I need to finish my thesis, ergo: I'm happy about every distraction I can get :-)
[10:27:58] * abaumann considers to play with lvm.conf filters
[10:29:20] <abaumann> lvm2-activation-generator - generator for systemd units to activate LVM volumes on boot
[10:29:23] <abaumann> wow.
[10:29:40] <deep42thought> is it part of systemd or lvm?
[10:30:14] <abaumann> lvm2
[10:30:31] <abaumann> usually, the modern way is to have a LVM daemon of sorts.
[10:30:38] <nit-picker> parts of i686/gimagereader are in differently-stable repositories: testing, stable
[10:30:41] <abaumann> which then uses a cache on /etc/lvm/.cache :->
[10:30:50] <abaumann> oh. cool. :-)
[10:31:01] <abaumann> nit-picker says something.
[10:31:08] <nit-picker> parts of i486/python-requests-mock are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:32:30] <nit-picker> parts of i686/libreoffice-still are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:32:40] <deep42thought> this might become annoying
[10:32:49] <abaumann> :-)
[10:34:27] * abaumann add a systemd unit manually doing a vgchange -a y before fsck
[10:34:36] <abaumann> this modern stuff is over-engineering
[10:35:44] <nit-picker> parts of pentium4/aubio are in differently-stable repositories: testing, stable
[10:36:39] <nit-picker> parts of pentium4/trojita are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:36:39] <nit-picker> parts of i686/atkmm are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:36:43] <nit-picker> parts of pentium4/libreoffice-still are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:36:57] <nit-picker> parts of i686/gmic are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:38:12] <nit-picker> parts of i486/python-wsgiproxy2 are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:38:13] <abaumann> pentium4/community/trojita-0.7-2.10 and pentium4/community-testing/trojita-0.7-2.11
[10:38:21] <abaumann> what is nit-picker trying to tell me here?
[10:38:42] <abaumann> testing can have a different version in stable and testing
[10:38:47] <abaumann> aeh..
[10:38:56] <abaumann> *trojita can have a different version in stable and testing
[10:38:58] <deep42thought> yes, noticed that, too
[10:39:07] <deep42thought> I'm checking for identical build-assignments
[10:39:11] <deep42thought> but that is obviously wrong
[10:39:18] <abaumann> ah.
[10:39:38] <deep42thought> so: pkgver, pkgrel and sub_pkgrel must match too
[10:39:40] <deep42thought> I think
[10:41:46] <nit-picker> parts of i486/python-raven are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:42:26] <nit-picker> parts of pentium4/libgdamm are in differently-stable repositories: stable, testing
[10:42:39] <deep42thought> nit-picker: go away
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[10:45:40] <deep42thought> should nit-picker warn about differing repositories or about differing repository stabilities?
[10:47:07] <abaumann> for the same package groud?
[10:47:10] <abaumann> *group
[10:47:13] <deep42thought> yes
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[10:47:14] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[10:47:15] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[10:47:16] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
[10:47:42] <abaumann> differing repositories would mean community and extra?
[10:47:50] <deep42thought> right
[10:47:57] <abaumann> actually both
[10:48:04] <deep42thought> would be strange, but technically it should be valid
[10:48:07] <abaumann> one detects when things are wrongly pushed
[10:48:16] <deep42thought> ok, good point
[10:48:17] <abaumann> the other when packages and subpackages hop repos
[10:48:21] <deep42thought> it should never happen
[10:48:25] <abaumann> exactly
[10:48:31] <abaumann> but if it does, it's bad
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[10:49:50] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[10:49:50] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[10:49:52] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
[10:50:07] <deep42thought> man, we need more quotes from nit-picker - this get's boring ;-)
[10:50:57] <abaumann> he could complain about the weather ;-)
[10:51:20] <nit-picker> it's too cold here - I'm freezing
[10:51:39] <abaumann> :-)
[10:51:51] <nit-picker> and my master does not treat me well
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[10:55:19] <buildmaster> Hi nit-picker!
[10:55:19] <buildmaster> !rq nit-picker
[10:55:21] <phrik> buildmaster: <nit-picker> abaumann: but there are only 18 "intermediate" versions
[10:57:45] <nit-picker> parts of pentium4/gimagereader are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[10:59:01] <nit-picker> parts of i486/pyprof2calltree are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[10:59:14] <deep42thought> these look real, now :-)
[11:00:12] <nit-picker> parts of i486/python-webtest are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[11:00:16] <deep42thought> note, that the nit-picker gives the pkgbase, so one needs to find out the pkgnames manually
[11:03:19] <abaumann> that's ok
[11:03:41] <deep42thought> I'll force-move all packages, which are in different repositories, now
[11:03:53] <deep42thought> this should bring us down from ~3.9k packages
[11:04:08] <abaumann> good idea
[11:08:25] <nit-picker> parts of i686/harfbuzz are in different repositories: extra, testing
[11:08:32] <nit-picker> parts of i486/python-pytest-xdist are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[11:09:07] <nit-picker> parts of i486/keystone are in different repositories: community, community-testing
[11:11:32] <deep42thought> ok, db-update is through
[11:11:39] <deep42thought> now, there shouldn't be any further issues
[11:13:47] <abaumann> let's see.
[11:13:59] <abaumann> have to leave now.. meeting somebody..
[11:14:09] <deep42thought> cu
[11:14:13] <abaumann> cu
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[11:33:01] <buildmaster> Hi girls!
[11:33:02] <buildmaster> !rq girls
[11:33:03] <phrik> buildmaster: <girls> isn't that a typo? shouldn't it be "haskell-base-combat-batteries"?
[13:53:47] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -36 < 100 days).
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[14:35:09] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-transition-20191103-1-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -36 < 100 days).
[15:51:33] <buildmaster> i486/kquickcharts are broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[15:52:24] <buildmaster> i686/linux-pae is broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[15:52:26] <buildmaster> pentium4/linux-pae is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
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[16:08:23] <buildmaster> i486/grantlee is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[17:14:21] <trotz> 2019/12/19 17:14 CRIT buildmaster OS updates 3 updates, 0 ignored
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[17:31:48] <abaumann> that's me.
[17:32:05] <abaumann> I'm trying to solve the "tinc-not-available-issue" when booting the buildmaster.
[17:33:16] <abaumann> hah. looking better.
[17:33:28] <abaumann> I'm also updating archlinux32.org now
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[20:42:42] <abaumann> https://ixsoft.de
[20:42:43] <phrik> Title: ixsoft - Linux-Shop: Software, Fan-Artikel, Hardware, Bücher, Zubehör - Alles rund um Linux + BSD (at ixsoft.de)
[20:43:11] <abaumann> (for those who can understand German)
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[21:01:01] <abaumann> completely nice page about bootstrapping: https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org
[21:01:03] <phrik> Title: bootstrapping (at bootstrapping.miraheze.org)
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