#archlinux32 | Logs for 2020-12-11
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[00:39:04] <buildmaster> any/kajongg is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[01:59:15] <buildmaster> i686/ktorrent is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[02:15:17] <buildmaster> i686/kleopatra is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[02:37:45] <buildmaster> i686/partitionmanager is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[03:05:44] <buildmaster> i686/xapp is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[03:05:44] <buildmaster> pentium4/xapp is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[03:27:06] <buildmaster> i686/grafana is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[03:36:01] <buildmaster> pentium4/grafana is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[03:46:42] <buildmaster> any/bitwarden_rs-web is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[04:04:32] <buildmaster> pentium4/haskell-ci is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[04:15:30] <buildmaster> i486/monero is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[07:17:45] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:17:45] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:17:46] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> I have funny nice ideas again :-)
[07:17:51] <abaumann> well, python is done, yes?
[07:17:55] <abaumann> I see on archlinux arm:
[07:17:57] <abaumann> Error in sitecustomize; set PYTHONVERBOSE for traceback:
[07:17:57] <abaumann> OSError: [Errno 74] Bad message: '/usr/lib/python3.9/lib-dynload'
[07:17:57] <abaumann> Error in usercustomize; set PYTHONVERBOSE for traceback:
[07:17:57] <abaumann> OSError: [Errno 74] Bad message: '/usr/lib/python3.9/lib-dynload'
[07:17:59] <abaumann> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/2to3", line 3, in <module>
[07:18:10] <abaumann> and of course kodi on arm breaks in pulseaudio.
[07:18:31] <abaumann> I'm sad to say, but I'm really no longer motivated to break my systems on a weekly basis..
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[07:20:57] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:20:57] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:20:58] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> bleep. I'm human.
[07:21:21] <abaumann> I'm afraid, as long as upstream doesn't move to a fully automated build system, the situation will remain that fragile.
[07:21:58] <abaumann> at least there should be some documentation (maybe there is?) how to upgrade specific package suits like python, haskell, toolchain, etc.
[07:27:54] <abaumann> let's see if reinstalling all of python helps
[07:28:14] <abaumann> I experienced file system corruption before with raspberry pis
[07:29:20] <abaumann> nope, and this broke my SPF support on the mail server
[07:29:24] <abaumann> cool
[07:35:09] <abaumann> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/python3.9/<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:35:25] <abaumann> well, this sounds like totally not a shared library.
[07:35:41] <abaumann> just in case somebody hits this on Archlinux32 too..
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[07:39:29] <bill-auger> raspberry piss?
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[07:44:39] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:44:40] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:44:40] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> you are the (build)master. ;-)
[07:44:57] <abaumann> so, I'm going to completly reinstall my infrastrucure servers..
[07:45:12] <abaumann> raspberry pis have a weak point: sd cards.
[07:45:39] <abaumann> they fail in non-predictable and chaotic ways, wear-leveling is just not existent on those devices.
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[07:55:43] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:55:43] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:55:44] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> nobody wrote an operating system in python yet?
[07:56:23] <abaumann> I'm really sorry for my outburst here.. but not being able to report bugs upstream (being banned) for several months, doesn't really motivate me to fix bugs anymore..
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[07:59:02] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:59:02] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:59:03] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> *abaumann does some hackeroo on his rsync-woodo-script..
[07:59:04] <abaumann> darn.. my network has hickups since yesterday..
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[08:08:44] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:08:44] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:08:45] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> finally I have an excuse to sit inside all day and hack away..
[08:10:59] <abaumann> error: could not extract /usr/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265D-17.ucode (Lzma library error: Corrupted input data)
[08:12:36] <buildmaster> i686/libc%2B%2B is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[08:16:27] <abaumann> 2020-12-11 08:15:59.687 CET [19040] FATAL: could not open shared memory segment "/PostgreSQL.537901341": Permission denied
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[08:33:19] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:33:19] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:33:20] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> you can save even more space when you install a meta-package that has the following entry in the PKGBUILD: "provides=($(pacman -Qq))"
[08:33:35] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann!
[08:33:47] <deep42thought> I'm running paccheck on my raspis on a regular basis
[08:33:56] <deep42thought> this brings up broken µsd cards pretty early
[08:36:25] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[08:39:40] <abaumann> error: linux-firmware: signature from "Arch Linux ARM Build System <builder@archlinuxarm.org>" is invalid
[08:39:48] <abaumann> Now slowly I start to get the creeps..
[08:41:01] <deep42thought> this really indicates a broken µsd card
[08:41:11] <deep42thought> check the packages in /var/cache/pacman/pkg
[08:41:20] <deep42thought> if the sha512sum matches the one on your mirror
[08:41:34] <deep42thought> (you do run a local archlinuxarm mirror, don't you?)
[08:41:54] <abaumann> yeah, I'm going to reinstall the mail and the backup server (all RPIs)
[08:42:11] <deep42thought> nono, check the µsd card first
[08:42:12] <abaumann> I'm strongly considering to use neither RPis nor Archlinux for that
[08:42:27] <abaumann> I have similar issues on all RPIs
[08:42:33] <abaumann> quite unlikely it's the card
[08:42:45] <deep42thought> hmm, then hardware failure is inprobable
[08:43:09] <abaumann> ok, I freeze that card and take another one..
[08:43:20] <abaumann> ..the problem is: I really don't have time for this..
[08:45:48] * deep42thought knows the feeling
[08:46:14] <deep42thought> but I'm afraid, all flavours of linux require time to fix annoying stuff like that ...
[08:46:35] <abaumann> yes, that's why I'm considering FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
[08:46:49] <abaumann> Linux is a festival of constantly changing things which used to work..
[08:46:55] <deep42thought> :-D
[08:46:59] <abaumann> ..and big companies are breaking more than they are fixing.
[08:47:22] <abaumann> my openbsd router is stable since 6 years and I update it twice a year.
[08:47:26] <deep42thought> which reminds me: our simulation box didn't appear on the network, lately, because it switched eth1 and eth0 again
[08:47:46] <deep42thought> well, my archlinux32 router is stable, too :-)
[08:47:59] <deep42thought> btw: thanks for helping to get this thing running in the first place
[08:48:02] <abaumann> yeah, that's mu other problem: people don't realize systemd, pulseaudio are just untested pieces of b*shit
[08:48:24] <abaumann> ah. that's actually an option. :->
[08:48:30] <abaumann> I have another alix lying around..
[08:48:45] <deep42thought> me too
[08:48:56] <abaumann> at least krb5 was running on Archlinux32 last time I checked,
[08:49:06] <abaumann> on ArchlinuxARM it doesn't work since a year or so
[08:49:25] <deep42thought> on archlinux32 there is only ourselves to blame :-)
[08:49:54] <abaumann> but archlinux is too bleeding edge for hosting stable servers IMHO
[08:50:05] <abaumann> (though the author admits he did that for years)
[08:51:55] <abaumann> wow, 13 SD card trays
[08:52:00] <abaumann> so many sd cards broke down
[08:52:13] <abaumann> and this with mounting without journal and all the usual tricks
[09:03:33] <deep42thought> why do I get a pacnew file for /etc/systemd/homed.conf on all of my boxes???
[09:03:54] <abaumann> yeah, I noticed that too.
[09:04:04] <abaumann> I do not case about systemd-homed at all..
[09:04:07] <abaumann> *care
[09:04:15] <deep42thought> me neither
[09:04:30] <deep42thought> probably a bug in pacman which wrongly sees a change in that file
[09:05:24] <abaumann> < #DefaultFileSystemType=ext4
[09:05:24] <abaumann> ---
[09:05:24] <abaumann> > #DefaultFileSystemType=btrfs
[09:05:26] <abaumann> cool
[09:05:32] <deep42thought> yep
[09:06:38] <abaumann> well, that's a legit diff, so nothing wrong with pacman here, I think
[09:08:34] <deep42thought> no, pacman should not complain, because the file in the filesystem is the original one from the package
[09:08:49] <deep42thought> e.g. not user-edited
[09:08:51] <abaumann> ah. you didn't change anything.
[09:08:59] <bill-auger> FWIW the parobola servers have always run parabola - maintenance is more work than an LTS distro; but there have not been any disasters, or much downtime
[09:09:45] <deep42thought> we do run archlinux on all our infra, too :-)
[09:09:46] <abaumann> usually things are pretty stable for me too, just every 1-2 years an update really breaks something.
[09:09:47] <bill-auger> i was skeptical at first too; but the base system is remarkably reliable
[09:10:11] <abaumann> yeah, I got breaks in krb5 (SASL), which is a corner area
[09:10:24] <abaumann> the pam issues lately are not nice..
[09:10:31] <abaumann> on 32-bit ARM and IA32
[09:10:52] <abaumann> but this is an upstream problem and not an Archlinux problem
[09:11:19] <abaumann> some old packages (especially if they involve C autoconf or both) are sometimes really not well maintained, if maintained at all.
[09:12:16] <abaumann> this is more a symptom of the open-source world in general: everybody uses it for free, but nobody pays authors or maintainer, especially if the software is old or not sexy.
[09:12:30] <abaumann> ..or both.. :-)
[09:14:40] <abaumann> dynamic_shared_memory_type=none is gone? sweet
[09:15:24] <abaumann> postgres updates had some hickups lately: one was a pgversion which was wrong
[09:15:38] <abaumann> not sure about this one, but pg_upgrade cannot listen to a unix domain socket
[09:18:48] <abaumann> /dev/shm not mounted, ah, nice.
[09:18:55] <abaumann> how comes (*puzzle*)
[09:22:38] <bill-auger> re: no one pays the devs - bruce perens has a new idea for a GPL-like license, but that would allow proprietary use, if the company pays the developers
[09:23:12] <abaumann> interesting
[09:23:57] <bill-auger> that remark reminded me of it closely - he thinks that is exactly the problem - the permissive licenses permitt too much, and the GPL does not permit enough
[09:24:29] <bill-auger> i thought that was interesting anyways - jen https://caesar.ftp.acc.umu.se
[09:24:37] <abaumann> Ah, and he also believes in open hardware. :-)
[09:24:44] <buildmaster> pentium4/libc%2B%2B is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[09:25:01] <abaumann> thanks for the link
[09:29:17] <buildmaster> pentium4/calibre is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[10:38:16] <buildmaster> i686/calibre is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[10:40:22] <deep42thought> switching sata cables did not help my hdd-freezing-problem
[10:40:30] <deep42thought> but it might actually be a faulty power supply
[10:40:56] <deep42thought> it only gives 4.78V on the 5V rail :-/
[10:47:05] <abaumann> this doesn't sound so good.
[10:58:46] <abaumann> wow. migration sucks. cyrus 2 to 3. half of the software on archlinuxarm has to be either rebuilt to patched...
[11:01:32] <abaumann> and I forgot to migrate from acme-client 1 to certbot for all certs.. this gonna be painful.
[11:01:46] <abaumann> so, don't expect my buildslaves and mirror to be back too soon again..
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[12:47:59] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[12:47:59] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[12:47:59] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> all slaves busy.. wait.. one slave in the north/western part of.. resists.. :-)
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[14:31:25] <buildmaster> pentium4/monero-gui is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[14:38:47] <buildmaster> pentium4/dhall-yaml is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[14:46:23] <buildmaster> pentium4/dhall-lsp-server is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[14:53:24] <buildmaster> i686/fprintd is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[14:56:16] <buildmaster> pentium4/fprintd is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[16:31:33] <buildmaster> any/nextcloud is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[17:06:41] <buildmaster> pentium4/pyside6 is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[17:12:35] <buildmaster> i486/libc%2B%2B is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:17:02] <buildmaster> i486/matrix-appservice-irc is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:31:25] <buildmaster> i486/emscripten is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[17:38:52] <buildmaster> i486/xorg-xwayland is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:48:39] <buildmaster> i486/vivaldi is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:51:05] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[18:51:05] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[18:51:06] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> if a robot mines his own coins, is he then self-employed? ;-)
[18:51:11] <abaumann> mirror and slaves are up again..
[18:51:15] <deep42thought> \o/
[18:51:24] <abaumann> hi deep42thought
[18:51:26] <deep42thought> running which os?
[18:51:28] <deep42thought> hi abaumann!
[18:51:41] <abaumann> Archlinux ARM for ARMv7 32-bit :-)
[18:51:51] <abaumann> my morning wrath has disappeared
[18:51:55] <deep42thought> :-)
[18:52:06] <abaumann> fun fact: owncloud wrote 50 GB (!!) of logfiles to the sd card
[18:52:10] * deep42thought considers locking away abaumann's keyboard until noon
[18:52:26] <abaumann> !grab deep42thought
[18:52:26] <phrik> abaumann: Bingpot!
[18:52:50] <abaumann> the default is owncloud.log which gets into /usr/share/webapps/owncloud
[18:52:58] <deep42thought> errrr
[18:53:03] <abaumann> this is what I call a sensible default :->
[18:53:11] <deep42thought> why not use /var/log for that by default :-/
[18:53:22] <deep42thought> yeah
[18:53:42] <abaumann> * abaumann whistles (if he had a way to report bugs)
[18:53:58] <deep42thought> /usr/share/... is a good idea - so it is out of sight for logrotate: you'll never loose any old logs :-D
[18:54:03] <abaumann> It was an owncloud 8 migrated to 9, then to 10.
[18:54:14] <abaumann> could also be due to the migration process
[18:54:26] <deep42thought> would also be a bug
[18:54:30] <abaumann> I had a tmpfs for /var/log :-)
[18:54:38] <deep42thought> I have one, too
[18:54:41] <abaumann> should I make a tmpfs for /usr/share? ;-)
[18:54:46] <deep42thought> lol
[18:54:48] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[18:54:48] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
[18:55:03] <deep42thought> put `pacman -S base` into /sbin/init
[18:55:14] <abaumann> urgh
[18:55:27] <abaumann> well.. with a good mirrorlist?
[18:55:33] <deep42thought> you do still have /var/cache/pacman/pkg!
[18:55:46] <abaumann> I remember Sun workstations some almost 30 years ago which where most likely bootstrapped this way every day..
[18:55:51] <abaumann> nope
[18:56:09] <abaumann> and ArchlinuxARM has no archive.archlinuxarm.org, not that I am aware of at least..
[18:56:39] <deep42thought> when I consider the work involved in moving this to the new mirror, I can understand them
[18:56:49] <abaumann> indeed, yes.
[18:56:58] <abaumann> thanks for that. :-)
[18:57:09] <buildmaster> i486/xorg-server is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[18:59:30] <deep42thought> np, by "work" I mainly meant the seemingly-endlessly running rsync process :-D
[19:00:09] <abaumann> yeah. poor buildmaster had some terrible days..
[19:00:20] <abaumann> ..I/O is really not good on those two conventional platters in RAID 1
[19:00:28] <abaumann> but, he. it's cheap :-)
[19:01:37] <deep42thought> :-D
[19:02:36] <abaumann> mmh. owncloud provides a sample config.php with 'logfile' => '/var/log/owncloud.log',
[19:02:48] <abaumann> so, something went wrong in-between migrations or so..
[19:03:26] <abaumann> now to kodi, failing irw_uarts with newer kernels and a pulseaudio on strike
[19:03:37] <abaumann> before I can not watch a movie..
[19:05:14] <deep42thought> you're trapped in https://xkcd.com ?
[19:05:16] <phrik> Title: xkcd: Command Line Fu (at xkcd.com)
[19:06:02] <abaumann> :-)
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[19:14:29] <buildmaster> i686/fprintd is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[19:15:07] <buildmaster> pentium4/fprintd is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[19:21:21] <buildmaster> i686/calibre is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[19:22:43] <buildmaster> pentium4/calibre is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
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[21:06:45] <buildmaster> pentium4/findomain is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[21:06:47] <buildmaster> i686/findomain is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
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[22:19:01] <buildmaster> i686/kcalutils are broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[22:23:24] <buildmaster> pentium4/kcalutils are broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
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[22:44:10] <buildmaster> i686/kmailtransport is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[22:46:17] <buildmaster> pentium4/kmailtransport is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[22:48:57] <buildmaster> i686/akonadi-search is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
[22:50:49] <buildmaster> pentium4/akonadi-search is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
[23:02:46] <buildmaster> pentium4/kgpg is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[23:03:35] <buildmaster> i686/kgpg is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
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[23:46:04] <buildmaster> i686/cppcheck is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[23:46:44] <buildmaster> pentium4/cppcheck is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
[23:50:01] <buildmaster> i486/pappl is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org