#archlinux32 | Logs for 2022-05-20

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[08:31:34] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:31:34] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:31:35] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> it's modern software in the end.. it _has_ to compile that long in order to get good.. ;-)
[08:32:21] <abaumann> deep42thought: npm and nodejs are broken for a long time. So I setarted to remove python-sphinx on some core packages, but the effort could be to big to do it everwhere (but maybe smaller than trying to fix nodejs).
[08:32:33] <abaumann> My build slaves all have PGP key issues (or had) and stopped working.
[08:32:40] <abaumann> Should be okish again now..
[08:33:17] <abaumann> And sometimes I stop all build slaves on puprose in order to do some manual builds with -j4 or so..
[08:33:38] <abaumann> ..sometimes when dealing with reawlly big packages (toolchain), I switch off everything to get all cores doing just toochain..
[08:34:02] <abaumann> ..LTO optimization didn't improve build times..also not on a Ryzen.. :-)
[08:35:24] <abaumann> your build slaves are currently disabled, they produced a lot of build failes (unable to synchronize database and PGP errors). You can reenable them on the buildmaster (manage-slaves enable xxx)
[08:37:58] <abaumann> :: unable to satisfy dependency 'libicuuc.so=71-32' required by harfbuzz-icu
[08:38:16] <abaumann> mmh, only on i486, I just rebuilt icu and harfbuzz, no luck..
[08:38:32] <abaumann> so. something still uses 71 instead of 71.1?
[08:42:39] <abaumann> joakim: yeah, the i486 ISO needs a lot of improvement.. first would be to have a decent set of default drivers to access the source and destination devices, this ISO has no RAM disk.
[08:42:43] <abaumann> CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=m
[08:42:47] <abaumann> is there as module.mmh. no clue.
[08:44:36] <abaumann> I don't see a xf86-video-trident in the AUR, but one could be made on basis of another one using sources from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org
[08:44:39] <phrik> Title: xorg / driver / xf86-video-trident ยท GitLab (at gitlab.freedesktop.org)
[08:45:11] <abaumann> just be prepared, that the X API could have changed (I didn't have big luck lately neither with mach64 nor geode, but for instance SiS work fine).
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[08:49:54] <KitsuWhooa> I tried building xf86-video-sis and while it did build, it immediately segfaulted :p
[08:50:23] <KitsuWhooa> I didn't have any energy to look into it sadly
[08:50:43] <KitsuWhooa> https://tasossah.com
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[08:56:09] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:56:09] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:56:10] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> bleep. I'm human.
[08:56:29] <abaumann> KitsuWhooa: oh. I did some patching IIRC. :-)
[08:56:52] <abaumann> But the patch might be on the Thinpad X240 which I have to dig out somewhere..
[08:57:55] <KitsuWhooa> ah, it'd be appreciated
[08:58:01] <KitsuWhooa> At some point I want to try to upstream some fixes
[08:58:09] <abaumann> Giben it's the same model and the same issue..
[08:58:13] <abaumann> *given
[08:58:25] <KitsuWhooa> geode, so probably same chipset
[08:58:37] <abaumann> and I didn't update the machine for quite a while,
[08:58:44] <abaumann> a, the geode is on my Alix
[08:58:56] <abaumann> and there I'm running on svga, I think.
[08:59:10] <KitsuWhooa> ah
[09:00:18] <KitsuWhooa> I still need to figure out why 3d acceleration fails on my s3 savage without this patch applied to X https://github.com
[09:00:56] <KitsuWhooa> and eventually I'd love to port support for these old chips to DRI2, so that they're usable again, but yeah...
[09:00:59] <abaumann> I'm usually guite happy to get into GUI-mode at all, 3D is nothing I'm usually aming at.
[09:01:10] <KitsuWhooa> I don't expect 3D on this SiS one
[09:01:16] <abaumann> DRI2, that would be great.
[09:01:24] <abaumann> I don't think so, no.
[09:01:25] <KitsuWhooa> but being able to run extreme tux racer on my S3 savage was pretty cool :p
[09:03:05] <abaumann> lol :-)
[09:03:51] <abaumann> pcmcia is dead, so no network.
[09:03:53] <abaumann> nice.
[09:04:07] <KitsuWhooa> rip
[09:04:24] <KitsuWhooa> my kernel panics on resume if I don't unplug my wlan card from pcmcia before suspending :p
[09:04:40] <abaumann> actually.. the hardware works just fine.. but Linux tries hard to throw out everything a little bit older..
[09:04:40] <KitsuWhooa> still haven't figured it out if it's the wlan driver or the pcmcia driver
[09:05:14] <abaumann> I had a D-Link with WPA2 working just fine.. grmpf
[09:06:51] <abaumann> ah. I didn't hack the SiS source code, I just made a manual xorg.conf. NoAccell or AccelMethod XAA might be causing the segfault. UseBios false is important and VideoRam I set manually to my 4MB
[09:07:31] <abaumann> wiki.archlinu
[09:07:45] <abaumann> (copy paste in the 21st century grmpf)
[09:07:46] <abaumann> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[09:07:47] <phrik> Title: IBM Thinkpad 240X / Artwork, Screenshots & Setups / Arch Linux 32 Forum (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[09:08:53] <KitsuWhooa> ah
[09:08:59] <KitsuWhooa> I'll have a look at some point later
[09:09:01] <KitsuWhooa> thanks!
[09:09:13] <KitsuWhooa> hey, we have the same wlan card
[09:09:18] <KitsuWhooa> does it surprive suspend/resume? :p
[09:09:21] <KitsuWhooa> *survive
[09:09:30] <abaumann> urgh. never tried. :-)
[09:09:47] <abaumann> that's something which might never have worked on Linux, actually
[09:10:17] <KitsuWhooa> I wrote a script to modprobe -r the atheros driver before suspend and it's pretty reliable surprisingly
[09:10:54] <abaumann> ah. good hint. thans. :-)
[09:10:55] <KitsuWhooa> also, what DM is that?
[09:12:27] <abaumann> DM? (old man needs a translation for modern chat slang) ;-)
[09:12:58] <KitsuWhooa> desktop manager :p
[09:13:06] <KitsuWhooa> er
[09:13:08] <KitsuWhooa> display manager
[09:13:18] <abaumann> ah. :-)
[09:13:21] <KitsuWhooa> brain is not functioning at 9am
[09:13:48] <abaumann> ah. 'slim'
[09:13:59] <abaumann> and then I think I have a notion3 there..
[09:14:55] <abaumann> 9am is less of a problem, but 24 degree Celcius in the morning is.. my brain is melting ;-)
[09:16:02] <abaumann> darn, I remember, I'm still missing the proprietary CD-ROM cable for the external CD-ROM drive..
[09:16:32] <abaumann> and the case starts to get brittle..
[09:16:56] <abaumann> the case is no literally duck tapped :-)
[09:20:10] <abaumann> gstreamer, wpewebkit, gst-plugins-bad. nice cycle on i486 (with icu mismatches everywhere).
[09:21:53] <abaumann> pcmcia is back, had a mixup with kernel modules
[09:23:05] <abaumann> now that everything works let's update to newest software, so everything can break again.. ;-)
[09:23:10] <abaumann> (also called testing)
[09:29:27] <KitsuWhooa> sounds fun
[09:31:34] <KitsuWhooa> I get the feeling that sis segfault is because it can't open /dev/dri/card0
[09:31:39] <KitsuWhooa> either that or "sisfb not found"
[09:31:51] <KitsuWhooa> since it looks a lot like a null pointer dereference
[09:39:51] <abaumann> I'm not using DRI (mostly becasuse there is no DRI support for that card in the kernel as far as I can tell).
[09:40:38] <abaumann> The null pointer is just a follow up for not having dri, framebuffers or so..
[09:41:30] <KitsuWhooa> yeah
[09:46:00] <abaumann> so, it even starts after updating after so long time.. nice :-)
[09:47:40] <abaumann> so, later. must do some (office) work.. :-)
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[11:37:54] <abaumann> Lately I'm feeling like a DOS-programmer trying to build software for Windows 95.. everything needs more than 4 GB of RAM. :-)
[11:38:16] <abaumann> Ok. back then it was more like "everything needs more than 640k"..
[11:38:46] <abaumann> interestingly i486 builds fail with OOM when LTO is _disabled_ that's new..
[11:42:55] <abaumann> mmh. -j4 might be a problem :-)
[11:43:15] <abaumann> but then - alas - I wait for a day for wpewepkit to build on i486.
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