#archlinux32 | Logs for 2023-03-15

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[18:13:57] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[18:13:57] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[18:13:58] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> they should have called it 'features: side-channel'
[18:14:22] <abaumann> so, the buildmaster was not handling new packages.. this time it was 'bochs' which was dropped upstream..
[18:14:44] <abaumann> ..I really wonder what the process is there? I now just dropped the last version into the AUR
[18:15:00] <KitsuWhooa> they dropped bochs? rip
[18:22:22] <abaumann> yeah. I don't think many people used it. It's quite slow and unless you do operating system debugging with it.. :-)
[18:22:59] <abaumann> I just thought, the last maintainer upstream drops it usually to the AUR..
[18:23:15] <abaumann> wow. got way slow too. :-(
[18:25:53] <abaumann> and my VGA bios mode switch hangs in emulation limbo.. well..
[18:26:22] <KitsuWhooa> qemu tcg doesn't throw sigill on sse2 when set to pentium3, so I was hoping bochs would do it :p
[18:26:58] <abaumann> uh? it doesn't. maybe you have to manually change the cpu profiles and remove sse2 there?
[18:27:33] <abaumann> but I also experienced issues with the emulation in the past.. it's not 100% the same as the original metal.. :-)
[18:28:07] <KitsuWhooa> I looked at qemu's source and there was nothing obvious. I even asked around and no one really helped, so I gave up
[18:29:14] <abaumann> There is a similar strange emulation bug (FS32#325), seems firefox runs on i686 but not pentium4 subarch on vmware..
[18:29:26] <abaumann> ..it runs flawless in libvirt/qemu
[18:29:41] <abaumann> now, I don't really enjoy installing vmware just to test that.. :-)
[18:29:48] <KitsuWhooa> hah
[18:29:57] <KitsuWhooa> vmware doesn't emulate though, does it?
[18:30:10] <abaumann> both are para-virtualizing
[18:30:20] <KitsuWhooa> qemu tcg is an emulator
[18:30:24] <abaumann> and qemu translates the code.
[18:30:27] <abaumann> exactly. :-)
[18:30:39] <abaumann> but I never had a look into the inner guts of qemu..
[18:30:57] <KitsuWhooa> if you use kvm with qemu, then there's no chance of it throwing sigills :p
[18:31:06] <KitsuWhooa> either way
[18:31:07] <abaumann> true.
[18:31:40] <abaumann> so, that's why I keep 15 old machines around at home.. :-)
[18:32:04] <KitsuWhooa> I do too, but it's annoying having to rsync back and forth
[18:33:18] <abaumann> I try to update them once a week, just the binary packages. So I can hop onto a machine, if something strange gets reported. But usually I'm using a local LXC arch32 (prio 1), then a local libvirt arch32 (prio 2), on my laptop..
[18:33:25] <abaumann> ..then some VMs on a server..
[18:33:30] <abaumann> ..then real hardware..
[18:33:51] <abaumann> (being prio 3 and 4)
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