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[11:32:23] <void09_> https://archlinux32.org any idea why there's no pentium4 package ? I managed to build it for i486
[11:32:26] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 - Package Search (at archlinux32.org)
[12:36:43] <KillerWasp> obs-studio take 500MB of RAM?
[12:38:07] <KillerWasp> i never see that the program eat much memory.
[12:41:57] <KillerWasp> eat 617MB. I remove all the config directory of obs and down to 172MB. :/
[12:42:32] <KillerWasp> still is big for a program that only capture and send streamming.
[13:15:10] <KitsuWhooa> void09_: because as I mentioned, its build dependencies are not satisfied
[13:15:23] <KitsuWhooa> if I were to force it to be built, when its dependencies get rebuilt, it'd most likely break
[13:15:31] <KitsuWhooa> s/rebuilt/updated/
[13:15:57] <KitsuWhooa> it'd probably build fine if you did it yourself
[14:55:43] <bill-auger> KitsuWhooa: it would not run on any arch32-era computers anyways, even with plenty of RAM - it refuses to start unless opengl v3 hardware is present
[14:55:55] <KitsuWhooa> rqbit?
[14:56:01] <KitsuWhooa> also huh?
[14:56:02] <bill-auger> OBS
[14:56:09] <KitsuWhooa> a. I wasn't talking about obs
[14:56:18] <KitsuWhooa> b. surely obs will run with llvmpipe
[14:56:40] <bill-auger> oh sry - auto complete always selects your nick when i try ping to KillerWasp
[14:59:06] <bill-auger> KillerWasp: if you need something more lightweight, ive made two alternatives to OBS which would run on old computers, one is CLI-only, and the other has a GUI with live preview
[15:02:12] <KillerWasp> i see. I have never noticed it. It is wrong if you depend on opengl when you don't need it. At least that's what it looks like, but you end up using it if you want to combine layers of images, it's much easier to use the graphics libraries that do the job, and they all use OpenGL. :S
[15:03:16] <KillerWasp> bill-auger: which's your projects?
[15:05:16] <bill-auger> opengl is not needed for compositing - it primary feature is 2d and 3d graphics - both of mine can overlay multiple images and text; but AFAIK, opengl is not needed - one uses ffmpeg and the ther uses gstreamer
[15:07:48] <bill-auger> this is the GUI tool https://github.com - if you dont need the preview though, i pprefer the shell script https://github.com
[15:07:49] <phrik> Title: GitHub - bill-auger/av-caster: A light-weight native gStreamer GUI for screencast, webcam, and audio recording and streaming (at github.com)
[15:09:47] <bill-auger> the shell script is surely easier to grok and hack - it simply compose a command line for ffmpeg - but also much more efficient without a GUI
[15:10:37] <KillerWasp> bill-auger: thanks. 🙂
[17:04:49] <void09_> KitsuWhooa: sorry I have short memory, 32bit era ;\
[17:05:20] <void09_> I think I asked about packages that can't be built natively on the arch but can be cross compiled
[17:05:36] <void09_> is there some PKGBUILD setting for that ?
[17:05:51] <KitsuWhooa> I have no idea how to cross compile on arch
[17:05:57] <KitsuWhooa> what I do is I compile things in an arch32 chroot
[17:06:02] <KitsuWhooa> just like the builders
[17:07:07] <void09_> I haven't considered that, I used vm and qemu
[17:07:14] <void09_> Can't find a good qemu gui :(
[17:07:24] <void09_> they're all shit/broken/discontinued
[17:09:33] <KitsuWhooa> virt-manager?
[17:10:17] <KitsuWhooa> also, IIRC when building packages in a VM you have less available memory
[17:10:32] <KitsuWhooa> than a chroot on an amd64 kernel
[17:16:38] <void09_> KitsuWhooa: virt-manager produces unfunctional configs for qemu by default, some you can fix removing extra hardware from the gui, but the other stuff, you have to edit the xml. which defeats the whole purpose of having a gui I guess.
[17:16:54] <void09_> Maybe it's workable if you already have the xmls for the vms, and you know what you are doing
[17:17:03] <KitsuWhooa> "by default"?
[17:17:05] <KitsuWhooa> huh?
[17:17:12] <KitsuWhooa> it works out of the box for me
[17:17:20] <void09_> new kmv/qemu image. select i486 etc cpu, it doesn't work
[17:17:24] <KitsuWhooa> oh
[17:17:33] <KitsuWhooa> yeah, right
[17:17:35] <KitsuWhooa> it's for kvm
[17:17:38] <void09_> yeah it works for x86_64 images, to install distros
[17:17:39] <KitsuWhooa> not emulation
[17:17:57] <void09_> yeah, not focused on that, i don't think you can even pick cpu from gui
[17:18:08] <KitsuWhooa> you can pick what cpu will show up in the vm
[17:18:12] <void09_> which is too bad, it's the only mature thing ;\
[17:18:17] <KitsuWhooa> but not what it'll run as
[17:18:27] <KitsuWhooa> since it's kvm
[17:18:54] <void09_> I just wanted something nice, so I can run retro OS-es with ease
[17:19:46] <void09_> ah wait, you can pick cpus in the gui
[17:20:17] <KitsuWhooa> as far as I know, that's for the dmi data
[17:20:54] <void09_> https://i.imgur.com
[17:21:05] <void09_> after fixing 3-4 erros, got stuck with that ;d
[17:21:43] <KitsuWhooa> yeah, it's calling qemu-system-x86_64
[17:22:13] <KitsuWhooa> (unrelated to the error)
[17:22:26] <KitsuWhooa> I don't think you can have pcie on i486 :p
[17:22:36] <KitsuWhooa> so all of that has to go
[17:27:12] <void09_> it's not removable though, pcie thing
[17:27:15] <void09_> greyed out
[17:27:32] <void09_> Emulator: /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64
[17:27:36] <void09_> no way to change that it looks like
[17:28:23] <void09_> I have an idea
[17:28:31] <void09_> a crowdfunding platform for foss projects
[17:28:35] <void09_> "qemu gui"
[17:30:36] <void09_> seems kickstarter has a category for developer
[18:04:07] <KillerWasp> void09_: you're use windows?
[18:04:17] <void09_> KillerWasp: arch btw
[18:04:26] <KillerWasp> void09_: then why you use mingw?
[18:04:38] <void09_> where do i use mingw ?
[18:05:17] <KitsuWhooa> mingw is for compiling for windows, no? :p
[18:05:32] <void09_> I guess
[18:05:39] <void09_> you can use it to cross compile in linux
[18:05:44] <void09_> idk, did i mention it ?
[18:06:02] <KitsuWhooa> never heard of anyone doing that
[18:06:06] <void09_> I use arch everywhere, mini pcs, laptops, desktops, servers
[18:06:15] <void09_> well not pure arch, cachyos
[18:06:35] <void09_> wish i could put arch on my tv ;d
[18:07:23] <KillerWasp> void09_: i guess that yes. In something side i read you that you're compile with mingw tools.
[18:07:58] <void09_> no idea. I built a 486 binary for windows today, of that rqbit torrent thing
[18:08:04] <void09_> didn't have time to test it
[18:08:11] <void09_> need to find windows xp 32 qemu image
[18:09:23] <KillerWasp> windows!....
[18:10:12] <KillerWasp> void09_: you must write your own journal for don't forget all things that you're doing... -.-U
[18:10:29] <void09_> I wrote all the commands i found, yeah
[18:10:39] <void09_> otherwise in 2 months i have to start from scratch ;d
[18:10:43] <void09_> i don't remember things well
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